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re: The obesity epidemic
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:41 pm to tadman
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:41 pm to tadman
I've been going to my gym long enough to see the progress others make.
There are people who, 3 years ago when I first joined, were fat, and are still fat today.
The gym is a great place to be if you are fat, but weight loss occurs in the kitchen. You can't outwork a bad diet.
I had a convo with one fat arse in the locker room a few weeks ago who asked me what I was getting ready to go eat as I had just finished my workout. I said probably something boring like a chicken salad and he made fun of my food choice and said he rewards himself after a workout by going out and getting a double meat double cheese burger and fries.
It's not hard to get fat, I just did an Ironman Triathlon back in April and trained for months, and even I had to watch what I ate to ensure any weight I did gain was controlled(I wanted to build my legs for the bike) and had to carefully count calories. If I had to restrain myself training for an Ironman, then people who don't watch their diet and practice a typical sedentary lifestyle or lifestyle that has the average workouts doesn't stand a chance.
There are people who, 3 years ago when I first joined, were fat, and are still fat today.
The gym is a great place to be if you are fat, but weight loss occurs in the kitchen. You can't outwork a bad diet.
I had a convo with one fat arse in the locker room a few weeks ago who asked me what I was getting ready to go eat as I had just finished my workout. I said probably something boring like a chicken salad and he made fun of my food choice and said he rewards himself after a workout by going out and getting a double meat double cheese burger and fries.
It's not hard to get fat, I just did an Ironman Triathlon back in April and trained for months, and even I had to watch what I ate to ensure any weight I did gain was controlled(I wanted to build my legs for the bike) and had to carefully count calories. If I had to restrain myself training for an Ironman, then people who don't watch their diet and practice a typical sedentary lifestyle or lifestyle that has the average workouts doesn't stand a chance.
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Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:45 pm to crazy4lsu
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crazy4lsu
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because it appears you are nearly retarded.
He just trolls. He doesn't care what he posts, how much he lies, or how much he's proven wrong. All he enjoys is watching folks like you get frustrated. It's a sick, twisted perversion.
He'll just ignore the evidence and move on to a different thread.
Let it go.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:46 pm to LCA131
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He just trolls. He doesn't care what he posts, how much he lies, or how much he's proven wrong. All he enjoys is watching folks like you get frustrated. It's a sick, twisted perversion.
He'll just ignore the evidence and move on to a different thread.
Let it go.
You sure are angry, papaw
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:47 pm to cable
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I went in for my yearly physical at my doctor. I came in at 174 lbs - at 6'2". He told me flat out that I was at a perfect weight and that people were going to tell me I was too thin bc people are so large now.
I get this all the time and it drives me nuts. Fat people telling me I need to "go eat a cheeseburger or two". Which is funny because I bet I could out eat every fat arse that tells me that. I am exactly your size, 6'2 175.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:51 pm to blakelobbasteel
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I came in at 174 lbs - at 6'2"
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I am exactly your size, 6'2 175
"you're off by a whole pound there... it's like numbers mean nothing to you. go ahead and melt."
-mingo
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:52 pm to LCA131
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He just trolls. He doesn't care what he posts, how much he lies, or how much he's proven wrong. All he enjoys is watching folks like you get frustrated. It's a sick, twisted perversion.
He'll just ignore the evidence and move on to a different thread.
Let it go.
Nah, I love name-calling. This utter retard read a paragraph of mine and thought it meant the exact opposite. I'm not pretending this guy is actually participating in good-faith.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:54 pm to BHS78
Personally, I think the move from stay at home moms to the working woman played the biggest role in terms of quality of diet for the average American
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:55 pm to crazy4lsu
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Then why do we see such high degrees of weight-gain relapse?
People lack self control.
During the height of my Ironman training I was burning 28,000+ calories per week meaning I had to eat 4,000 a day just to maintain. I was really worried that post-Ironman I would be "used" to eating so much and would be miserable cutting back to a more normal fitness routine where I wasn't eating as much calories. It hasn't been quite as bad as I was expecting but it has been an adjustment and has required self control. I've learned the real challenge isn't the desire to eat 4,000 calories a day, but being able to eat 4,000 calories a day simply gave you more options so not having as many options is where the pain point is.
And 4,000 calories isn't that much. I would eat to match the workout for the day(so if I had a long weekend workout that burned 8,000 calories, I'd eat 8,000, and on rest days where I only burned 2300, I'd only eat 2300). I could easily knock out the 8,000 calorie days and not be full. And I learned how little 3,500 calories actually is. Throughout my entire 6 months of training I averaged 3,538 calories burned per day and averaged 3,494 calories consumed per day.
Combine sugary soft drinks, coffees, and "healthy" snacks like nuts and granola that are loaded with calories, to go along with their 3 meals a day, the average person could easily eat 3,500+ calories a day and get fat because they aren't burning anywhere near that much. 3,500 burned a day was my 24 week average training for a damn Ironman! The average person burns far less than that.
That's why most people are fat.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:58 pm to Slagathor
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you're off by a whole pound there... it's like numbers mean nothing to you. go ahead and melt."
-mingo
Near-perfect.
That's even better than when Festus does his impression of Oweo posting.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:59 pm to blakelobbasteel
Way, way, WAY too much math.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 5:03 pm to LCA131
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Way, way, WAY too much math.
TLDR, during 6 months of Ironman training the average daily calorie burn according to my Garmin was about 3,500.
3,500 calories isn't that much food in the grand scheme of things. I could see how the average person could easily go over that every day - but the average person also doesn't spend 6 months training for a full Ironman, so its easy to get fat quickly.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 5:05 pm to blakelobbasteel
I meant on a daily basis, Blake. Did you mention you were training for an Ironman comp.?
Posted on 6/8/22 at 5:05 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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You sure are angry, papaw
Bitch, are we ever going to talk about how you are a literal retard?
Posted on 6/8/22 at 5:06 pm to lsupride87
No one staying home to cook and the rise of fast food didn't help. Divorce and broken homes has created stress eating.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 5:06 pm to LCA131
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Did you mention you were training for an Ironman comp.?
Are you trying to be funny or snarky? Because you're just coming off as an unfunny loser
Posted on 6/8/22 at 5:07 pm to blakelobbasteel
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I get this all the time and it drives me nuts.
Same way - the only thing I do is limit my consumption of sugar to almost nothing. I'll drink a 12 oz soda mb 2-4 times a year. That's pretty much it. I drink beer all the time, cook for myself at home most days and otherwise eat pretty much whatever I want.
I've said this before and it's the truth - if I had a good financial reason to bulk up I might do it - but the NFL ain't taking my old arse on at linebacker at this point so I'm more concerned about my long-term health and longevity.
This post was edited on 6/8/22 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 6/8/22 at 5:07 pm to LCA131
Posted on 6/8/22 at 5:07 pm to crazy4lsu
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Bitch, are we ever going to talk about how you are a literal retard?
You're free to talk about whatever utter bullshite you please. Whether it that or your dumbass nutrition takes.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 5:08 pm to crazy4lsu
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Mother fricker, you assholes need to read. Good christ.
Bro I didn't insult you, font mother frick me.
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Then why do we see such high degrees of weight-gain relapse?
Has absolutely nothing to do with what I said, zero zilch nada. I hope you read research reviews and studies better than you read tiger droppings.
I told you go read what Dr Layne Norton has posted on the issue. Go read what Alan argon has said on the issue. Both have literally posted dozens of studies and meta analysis showing what I have said is true.
Don't want to listen to them...how about Dr John Berardi?
Has to be a medical doctor??? Then go read what the docs at barbell medicine have to say.
And those two alone have forgotten more then every other person on this board has ever known.
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You don't know anything about the compliance issue.
You can believe whatever you want, I really don't care. But if you don't believe me, might want to go read Laynes stuff considering he has more clients for weightloss than prolly ever doctor in Louisiana combined through his app.
But yea I'm sure I know nothing and if you think that...fine but no reason to mother frick me.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 5:08 pm to blakelobbasteel
I find it’s not that easy to eat 3-3.k calories and keep it clean/healthy
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