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re: The New Remote Modern Workplace
Posted on 1/18/18 at 7:35 am to East Coast Band
Posted on 1/18/18 at 7:35 am to East Coast Band
Being in the office doesn't mean you're being productive. I'd argue the employees having the ability to run those errands after accomplishing a few tasks helps with their work/life balance, which leads to a happier and more productive employee.
I mean, how many times do you see someone just sitting in their cubicle waiting on an email to come back through? I see it all the time.
Another point is that when I work from home, I generally work through my lunch. At the office, most of the ladies all eat together in the break room. They just want to get away from their desk for a few minutes. Just food for thought.
I mean, how many times do you see someone just sitting in their cubicle waiting on an email to come back through? I see it all the time.
Another point is that when I work from home, I generally work through my lunch. At the office, most of the ladies all eat together in the break room. They just want to get away from their desk for a few minutes. Just food for thought.
This post was edited on 1/18/18 at 7:47 am
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 7:38 am to kywildcatfanone
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What needs to die first is building and renovating school buildings. When one is ready to be renovated or replaced, take that school virtual
I don’t think this would ever be widespread, and I’m not sure it should be. There are more things kids learn at school than just subject matter.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 7:38 am to elprez00
The last two years I worked before the cancer hit and I retired I ran country music radio stations from home.
I recorded everything at home in my studio, I uploaded everything needed remotely and programmed everything to run from my home office. I did not see the inside of the station for the last two years I worked there.
I'm a old man and it was insane to me until I did it for a week. I could never go near another office again if I ever had to work again. Which I won't but that's not the point
I recorded everything at home in my studio, I uploaded everything needed remotely and programmed everything to run from my home office. I did not see the inside of the station for the last two years I worked there.
I'm a old man and it was insane to me until I did it for a week. I could never go near another office again if I ever had to work again. Which I won't but that's not the point
Posted on 1/18/18 at 7:39 am to TigerRob20
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There are more things kids learn at school than just subject matter.
Socialization and learning to deal with different types of people and adversity is a major part of schooling, although SJW are currently doing their best to kill that.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 7:43 am to elprez00
Never. IBM experimented with it and is now pulling people back into the office because they lost so much productivity. People need an office environment where they are surrounded by other people working hard to motivate them to perform better. It's just human nature.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 7:49 am to Muthsera
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 7:53 am to East Coast Band
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Bosses would have a tough time trusting their employees are remaining productive while at home. Sure it can be done, but all the ones I know that "work from home" will always find tha extra time to work in the yard, run a few errands, etc. that would not otherwise be able to do while at an office all day.
Ive worked from home exclusively for 7 years now. I couldnt find enpugh errands to do to match the time wasted by chit chat in the office.
I miss people, but productivity is not an issue.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 7:55 am to cas4t
One more thing a lot of people forget that’s vastly different now. How many of you don’t have 24/7 access to work email? How many of your bosses don’t have your cell phone number? And I’m talking specifically about during times when your aren’t on call.
There will be people that debate this statement, but technology has made work easier and faster. Personal example: in construction I used an On Screen Takeoff software for estimating. What used to take me days to do with a scale and Construction Master Wheel took me a few hours to do on screen. Daily reports, Requests for Information, communications were done via an iPad as opposed to hand writing. Early in my career we used to send a “Friday Pack” via fedex to the office with invoices, tickets, receipts and reports. Now it’s all scanned and emailed. This has all changed in the last ten years.
What’s also changed is the number of projects i was expected to run. When i left construction i was running 4 projects by myself ranging from $25m to $4m. What I hated about it was that small project required the same amount of paperwork and documentation as large projects, you just had less time to do it. Without the access to technology there’s no way I would’ve been able to manage that and even with it I was working 50-70 hrs a week.
What made me leave the industry is i was making no more money proportionally than i would have been 15 years prior despite being able to cover more work. This concept is lagging in modern society and is one on my chief irritations when i hear the “millenials are lazy” trope thrown around. Maybe my generation is starting to smart up and realizes we are far more productive than our predecessors and want to have some sort of work/life balance?
See I believe you hire a person to do a job and they either do it or don’t. I’ve got two supervisors working for me that handle work completely different. One of them I can guarantee would handle things verbatim the way i would. The other does things polar opposite from me. But they both get the work done, so who am I do dictate how they do it? It used to drive me nuts when I’d get “help” from my bosses in construction who would tell me how to do things instead of helping me execute the things i wanted done.
Sorry for the soapbox there.
There will be people that debate this statement, but technology has made work easier and faster. Personal example: in construction I used an On Screen Takeoff software for estimating. What used to take me days to do with a scale and Construction Master Wheel took me a few hours to do on screen. Daily reports, Requests for Information, communications were done via an iPad as opposed to hand writing. Early in my career we used to send a “Friday Pack” via fedex to the office with invoices, tickets, receipts and reports. Now it’s all scanned and emailed. This has all changed in the last ten years.
What’s also changed is the number of projects i was expected to run. When i left construction i was running 4 projects by myself ranging from $25m to $4m. What I hated about it was that small project required the same amount of paperwork and documentation as large projects, you just had less time to do it. Without the access to technology there’s no way I would’ve been able to manage that and even with it I was working 50-70 hrs a week.
What made me leave the industry is i was making no more money proportionally than i would have been 15 years prior despite being able to cover more work. This concept is lagging in modern society and is one on my chief irritations when i hear the “millenials are lazy” trope thrown around. Maybe my generation is starting to smart up and realizes we are far more productive than our predecessors and want to have some sort of work/life balance?
See I believe you hire a person to do a job and they either do it or don’t. I’ve got two supervisors working for me that handle work completely different. One of them I can guarantee would handle things verbatim the way i would. The other does things polar opposite from me. But they both get the work done, so who am I do dictate how they do it? It used to drive me nuts when I’d get “help” from my bosses in construction who would tell me how to do things instead of helping me execute the things i wanted done.
Sorry for the soapbox there.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 7:57 am to elprez00
My company set us up to work remotely, I love it.
Saved me a 45 minute commute each way daily.
Sitting here now in shorts and a cap.
Saved me a 45 minute commute each way daily.
Sitting here now in shorts and a cap.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 7:57 am to Big_Slim
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People need an office environment where they are surrounded by other people working hard to motivate them to perform better. It's just human nature.
Couldn't you make the office requirement 30 hours a week. Or a 3/2 or 4/1 schedule?
Posted on 1/18/18 at 7:59 am to roadkill
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Unless I'm traveling, I work from home. Very productive - in fact, I feel guilty sometimes taking 30-60 minutes at lunch to run to the store whereas when I worked in an office, lunch was an untimed event. And I usually end up working from around 7 am - 6 pm from home - win/win for me and the company.
This is correct for me as well. I end up working more hours from home just because I can go out to my office and email or call whenever I need to.
Studies are showing that the bigger issue is actually turning off work when you work from home.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:00 am to Big_Slim
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Never. IBM experimented with it and is now pulling people back into the office because they lost so much productivity. People need an office environment where they are surrounded by other people working hard to motivate them to perform better. It's just human nature.
IBM is in the minority and your last part of your post is just simply not true.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:00 am to Big_Slim
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People need an office environment where they are surrounded by other people working hard to motivate them to perform better. It's just human nature.
Wrong. I was far more productive and got things done quicker because I didn't have a bunch of slackers blah blah blah-ing all day about how their wife likes to smell cookies after freshly baking them....
Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:01 am to dewster
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Someone else can use your desk
Fak that. They'd eat all my snacks.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:07 am to elprez00
I have a 1 year old and a 3 year old...I need an office just to get away
Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:11 am to kywildcatfanone
Then who supervises those kids while they attend their virtual school? Right or wrong, our society right now is set up on a model where kids go to school while parents are at work. If we start sending kids to virtual schools, parents will lose their "free childcare" of sending them to a brick & mortar school. That will have ramifications on the working world.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:14 am to elprez00
Your j-o-b will be eliminated long before the office goes away. It is just a form of crowd control.
This post was edited on 1/18/18 at 8:15 am
Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:21 am to Breesus
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Couldn't you make the office requirement 30 hours a week. Or a 3/2 or 4/1 schedule?
Absolutely and I would love to see that. I do think the 9 to 5 for 5 days a week needs to die I just also think it's impossible to completely get rid of the necessity of the office
Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:24 am to cas4t
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IBM is in the minority and your last part of your post is just simply not true.
Solid post, would read again. It's not like the largest business technology company in the world and one of the lead designers in current machine learning/AI systems would know shite about that anyway right?
Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:26 am to danfraz
I mean if it's really that much of an issue then close your office door. That blah-blahing is certainly not productive, but it does create that feeling of being a part of team which is one of the most essential factors in productivity. Humans need face to face interaction
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