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re: The New Remote Modern Workplace
Posted on 1/18/18 at 11:17 am to elprez00
Posted on 1/18/18 at 11:17 am to elprez00
Wife and I both work from home minimum 3 days week, but we’ve both gone two weeks straight without going into office. I believe it will continue to trend that way. I also believe this trend adds another layer to why people are building larger homes.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 11:24 am to cas4t
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Where did you learn this in biology?
Chapter 6
Posted on 1/18/18 at 11:35 am to elprez00
There are some professions that are not conducive to working remotely. I've been an engineer/project manager in manufacturing for close to 20 years and this is one of those professions. Yes, there are days I could work from home, but for the most part, I need to be onsite working with my direct reports and other groups on a 1:1 basis. From design work to personnel coaching, there is nothing like being able to work face to face get the work done quickly and effectively.
I can see all the liberal arts, finance, law, sales, insurance, etc. professions going to remote office, but when it comes to managing non-professional personnel and physically making a product, you need to spend a majority of your time in the office.
My wife is an engineer as well, however, she has moved into manufacturing logistics for a Fortune 50 company over the past 15 years or so. She spends half her time on conference calls, or doing analysis, so she could probably move to remote working, but would still have to go into the office every now and then to make presentations to the presidents, and customers.
And even though I am in introvert, I still have to have the face to face contact with people. I just can't read people over the phone, or through email. The personal relations are what help grow the business, and I just may be old, but I can't form a relationship over the phone or email.
I can see all the liberal arts, finance, law, sales, insurance, etc. professions going to remote office, but when it comes to managing non-professional personnel and physically making a product, you need to spend a majority of your time in the office.
My wife is an engineer as well, however, she has moved into manufacturing logistics for a Fortune 50 company over the past 15 years or so. She spends half her time on conference calls, or doing analysis, so she could probably move to remote working, but would still have to go into the office every now and then to make presentations to the presidents, and customers.
And even though I am in introvert, I still have to have the face to face contact with people. I just can't read people over the phone, or through email. The personal relations are what help grow the business, and I just may be old, but I can't form a relationship over the phone or email.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 11:40 am to cas4t
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Another point is that when I work from home, I generally work through my lunch. At the office, most of the ladies all eat together in the break room. They just want to get away from their desk for a few minutes. Just food for thought.
I often work through lunch at home. When I had to go into the office, I would make sure to leave my desk for at least an hour just to get away.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 11:46 am to Epic Cajun
I'm just hopeful that in my lifetime this will see a rejuvenation of desirable smaller towns/cities.
A lot of people can't move to those places because they're tethered to professions that don't exist there. And, not to be a snob, but a lot of nice places are burdened (to some extent, I know it cuts both ways) by not having professionals who can live there. It impacts how "nice" a place can generally be, especially in this region.
A lot of people can't move to those places because they're tethered to professions that don't exist there. And, not to be a snob, but a lot of nice places are burdened (to some extent, I know it cuts both ways) by not having professionals who can live there. It impacts how "nice" a place can generally be, especially in this region.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 11:48 am to Tiger in NY
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Yes, but as things like video calling become more ubiquitous, collaboration becomes less and less geographically dependent.
All of my company's internal calls are video calls, so we do get to see that body language and facial expressions. We use web share daily, along with IM constantly. There are so many tools out there now.
Yep, I don't do video conferencing but I'm on the phone with my boss probably an hour each day. Part of that is because I'm good friends with her, but a lot of it is collaboration on work related issues. We'll pop open a Skype sharing session and work through issues together just to bounce ideas off of each other.
We're also on Skype IM'ing each other throughout the day.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 11:52 am to Pettifogger
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I'm just hopeful that in my lifetime this will see a rejuvenation of desirable smaller towns/cities.
A lot of people can't move to those places because they're tethered to professions that don't exist there. And, not to be a snob, but a lot of nice places are burdened (to some extent, I know it cuts both ways) by not having professionals who can live there. It impacts how "nice" a place can generally be, especially in this region.
I agree. A town like Abbeville, LA could be really nice, but there is nothing to bring young professionals there. My wife and I talk about this often because her parents are both from there and live near there currently. I don't know a single person not born there, that would want to move there because there aren't really professional jobs located in that area.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 11:54 am to Big_Slim
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I recognize this as well but talent in engineering is a lot of times different than talent in other fields where physical proximity is still essential. I did not know that about IBM's reputation, but I do know that it didn't stop them from implementing the remote work system before recognizing that it was a failure.
Just because the way IBM tried to implement a remote office environment failed doesn't mean the concept is a failure.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 11:56 am to Epic Cajun
I think it's particularly a problem in the South. I know I'm being over broad, but I'm amazed at some of the New England towns where you have well-educated, professional-type people in a town of 12000. Remote work won't replace other things at play (generational money, for one), but it may make things like that more feasible.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 11:58 am to elprez00
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When is the “office” concept going to die? I have a cell phone and laptop. I couldn’t get to my office today but worked on my computer and still did two conference calls I was scheduled to do. Second call had several other people working remotely.
As someone who has worked at home exclusively for 5 years now, be careful what you ask for.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 12:07 pm to elprez00
I've worked from home full time for about 8 years now. It's great.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 12:07 pm to Pettifogger
But you have to acknowledge that cell phones and email have completely allowed work to invade employees personal lives. And I don’t believe the transition has been positive in most industries. You can’t expect someone to be chained to a desk for a min or 40 hours and expect them to be available every min they aren’t via phone/email. At some point it’s not only about money.
Wouldn’t surprise me if you see more and more people consider transitioning out of salary back to hourly work if we don’t find a balance.
Wouldn’t surprise me if you see more and more people consider transitioning out of salary back to hourly work if we don’t find a balance.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 12:21 pm to elprez00
I have a boomer boss (67 years old) who is old school as hell. He has a tough time wrapping his head around the idea. I sense he really does try to understand but its not his nature.
That said, as a consultant, if your making money and the train is rolling, then working remotely is far easier to accept.
That said, as a consultant, if your making money and the train is rolling, then working remotely is far easier to accept.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 1:14 pm to CharlesLSU
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That said, as a consultant, if your making money and the train is rolling, then working remotely is far easier to accept.
If a business isnt measuring employee performance by means other than looking over the employee's shoulder, then they are already failing anyway.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 1:47 pm to jdd48
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If proper network/computer security precautions are taken, yes. If not, every remote employee could be a potential source of an information breach. It's much easier to secure an enterprise grade firewall behind an internet circuit than it is the various home routers with possible poor security.
That's the beauty of using a VPN solution or VDI.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 1:56 pm to elprez00
I have a long commute - I just want one day a week from home. No reason you can’t with remote log ins, video conferencing, etc.
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