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The most misunderstood, and misapplied word in the English language is “repent”

Posted on 5/9/25 at 8:13 pm
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 5/9/25 at 8:13 pm
The English word “repent” comes from the Greek word (metanoia) which literally means “a change of mind” or “after-thought”.

It comes from:
• (meta) = after, beyond, or change
•. (nous) ? ???a (noia) = mind, thought



So, metanoia refers to a profound shift in one’s thinking or understanding.

It does not mean to be penitent, or to change your ways, or stop an action you’re doing as it is often used by people, but rather to change your mind about something.

Yet Webster now defies the word repent as “ to turn from sin and dedicate oneself to the amendment of one's life”, a complete bastardization of it’s original intended meaning in the Greek, and with it a complete misunderstanding and misappropriated use of the word today by clergy especially as a prerequisite for salvation or relationship. There’s a whole deep dive into how this transpired, the likes of which aren’t necessarily relevant to the issue at hand here.

I have to believe that words have meanings they were intended to convey, and they are only relevant to the manner in which the original meaning that they were intended to convey, certainly not what we want them to mean for whatever reasoning that may be.

For instance, if you heard a person from the 1950’s say that he was a gay man, he doesn’t mean that he’s homosexual, but rather he is a cheerful, light hearted and merry person. That’s obviously what it has come to mean today, but that isn’t the original meaning of the word.

I say all of this to illustrate why it is critically important to find the original intent in language rather than preconceived notions of word meanings in anything you read, be it in this case scripture, or in old legal documents, or what have you as language changes, but original meanings and intent do not.






Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 5/9/25 at 8:16 pm to
This will go well….
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 5/9/25 at 8:16 pm to
Sir this is a DMV office
Posted by Bama and Beer
Baldwin Co, AL
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/9/25 at 8:18 pm to
I read all of that and didn't hate it. I must repent
Posted by High C
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Posted on 5/9/25 at 8:21 pm to
Joseph Prince always explained these things well. I really liked listening to him.
Posted by Zap Rowsdower
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Posted on 5/9/25 at 8:23 pm to
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The most misunderstood, and misapplied word in the English language is


Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 5/9/25 at 8:23 pm to
You're not far off, but Metanoia is really more of a "new beginning" or rebirth.

Posted by Havoc
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Posted on 5/9/25 at 8:24 pm to
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of it’s original intended meaning

“of it is intended meaning”
Why should we listen to you when you don’t know simple conjunctions?
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 5/9/25 at 8:28 pm to
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Why should we listen to you when you don’t know simple conjunctions?


You shouldn’t. That what got us to this place in the first place. You should look into it for yourself.
Posted by shutterspeed
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Posted on 5/9/25 at 8:29 pm to
In that case, I repent trusting that fart once.
Posted by TheHarahanian
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Posted on 5/9/25 at 8:33 pm to

Lesson learned: it’s ok to call you gay.
Posted by pussywillows
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Posted on 5/9/25 at 8:33 pm to
while i get what you're trying to say, the etymology of the word "repent" has nothing to do with the word "metanoia"...it is a middle english word derived from the french "repentir", which is turn comes from the latin "paenitere"...however, the word "metanoia" was used in the early greek translations of the bible in the places where english translations use the word "repent"...



eta: i studied etymology and latin in college...
This post was edited on 5/9/25 at 8:48 pm
Posted by Kafka
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 5/9/25 at 8:33 pm to
quote:

The most misunderstood, and misapplied word in the English language is
"____phobic"
Posted by bayoubengals88
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Posted on 5/9/25 at 8:37 pm to
“Go, and sin no more”

…It’s much more bodily than just a changing of the mind. The gospel ain’t your easy believism.

Read Gospel Allegiance by Matthew Bates.
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 5/9/25 at 8:40 pm to
So repent is a Zuckerberg invention? That dude is a genius
Posted by Double Down
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Posted on 5/9/25 at 8:42 pm to
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Sir this is a DMV office


The put a DMV office in the old Wendy’s?!?
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
60799 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 8:44 pm to
quote:


“Go, and sin no more”

…It’s much more bodily than just a changing of the mind. The gospel ain’t your easy believism.

Read Gospel Allegiance by Matthew Bates.



How’s that working out for you?


You missed the second part “lest a worst thing come unto thee.” Not salvation, but the effects from sinning.


Posted by Duffnshank
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 5/9/25 at 8:45 pm to
quote:

I have to believe that words have meanings they were intended to convey, and they are only relevant to the manner in which the original meaning that they were intended to convey, certainly not what we want them to mean for whatever reasoning that may be.

This is a holy wall of run on sentencing…
Posted by Artificial Ignorance
Member since Feb 2025
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Posted on 5/9/25 at 8:54 pm to
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The most misunderstood, and misapplied word in the English language is “repent”


Literally

Bar none
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
10608 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 8:57 pm to
That's so cool.

(Now do the word cool)
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