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The Millionaire Next Door sequel has a couple of surprises

Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:27 pm
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:27 pm
You O-T baws might like this. Dr. Thomas Stanley and his daughter were working on a sequel to The Millionaire Next Door when he died in a car crash in 2015. She has finished the extensive research and book, and the book is due to be released in October.

A preview of sorts has been released and discussed.

8% of millionaires are educators.


This includes K-12 and college professors, but it is surprising nevertheless. This is higher than doctors and attorneys (which isn't surprising because they are typically bad with money). Only business owners, accountants and engineers have a higher percentage of millionaires than teachers.

This post was edited on 7/24/18 at 1:40 pm
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:29 pm to
Teachers still need raises!
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:29 pm to
Lol they married up. Or they saved for a long time.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30580 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:30 pm to
99% of rich people living paycheck to paycheck are lawyers
Posted by CFDoc
Member since Jan 2013
2095 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:30 pm to
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engineers



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millionaires


frick, I'm doing it wrong.
Posted by Popths
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
3967 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:31 pm to
Being a millionaire is commonplace in today's society. Not like it's the 1970's.
Posted by JDogg33
Member since Oct 2017
405 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:32 pm to
Maybe chick teachers marrying rich dudes? Time off in summer and top notch benefits make good wives
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:33 pm to
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Lol they married up. Or they saved for a long time.



The breakdown is in the book supposedly, but in Mississippi, 25% of teachers incomes are invested for retirement. 10% by the teacher , 15% by the state (rounding)

An average income of $50,000 over 30 years at a measly 6% puts you over a million.

Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:33 pm to
Millionaires are people who bought houses 30-40 years ago that are now worth half a million + due to that neighborhood becoming a hot spot in the real estate market and have a few hundred thousand squirreled away for retirement after an adulthood of contributing to a pension/IRA/401k.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18085 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:36 pm to
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Millionaires are people who bought houses 30-40 years ago that are now worth half a million + due to that neighborhood becoming a hot spot in the real estate market and have a few hundred thousand squirreled away for retirement after an adulthood of contributing to a pension/IRA/401k.


True, but the book excludes primary residence (but counts retirement savings) in its calculation of a millionaire.

Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:36 pm to
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8% of millionaires are educators.


They took low paying jobs because they married rich or come from money.

I know several super rich girls from money that became private school elementary teachers because it was an easy major and they had to have some job while searching for a husband.

Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18085 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:41 pm to
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Being a millionaire is commonplace in today's society. Not like it's the 1970's.



more commonplace, but not commonplace. 2/3 of Americans don't have $1000 in savings. Its top heavy. This is why the angst against the 1% worries me. IN 25-30 years, it will be angst against the 20%, which includes most people on this board.

Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:43 pm to
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The breakdown is in the book supposedly, but in Mississippi, 25% of teachers incomes are invested for retirement. 10% by the teacher , 15% by the state (rounding)

An average income of $50,000 over 30 years at a measly 6% puts you over a million.


Nice. I assume they don't get that as a lump sum though. They use it as a pension?
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18085 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:45 pm to
My wife and I are both educators. Everyone around us whines about pay. I pulled this chart out to a colleague not too long ago. There aren't many fields that make more money over a lifetime. Definitely not many less stressful ones.



Posted by Crawdaddy
Slidell. The jewel of Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:46 pm to
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8% of millionaires are educators.


Could be billionaires if they worked year round
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9044 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:49 pm to
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8% of millionaires are educators.


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This includes K-12


Do they specify or differentiate whether those K-12 professionals are teachers or administration?

Huge difference. Some K-12 principals and superintendents can make a shite load of money.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84991 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:52 pm to
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8% of millionaires are educators.



I've seen numbers that say 14% of millionaires are educators.

However, those same numbers say 46% of those educators attribute their wealth to inheritance. Furthermore, a large chunk of those educators made their money elsewhere, then decided to teach.

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This is higher than doctors and attorneys (which isn't surprising because they are typically bad with money). Only business owners, accountants and engineers have a higher percentage of millionaires than teachers.


That's also a flawed statistic. You're measuring how many millionaires are teachers or doctors instead of how many doctors or teachers are millionaires.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84991 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:54 pm to
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They took low paying jobs because they married rich or come from money. I know several super rich girls from money that became private school elementary teachers because it was an easy major and they had to have some job while searching for a husband.




It's mostly this.

It would be like a study saying 75% of millionaires are stay at home moms.
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9044 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:59 pm to
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That's also a flawed statistic. You're measuring how many millionaires are teachers or doctors instead of how many doctors or teachers are millionaires.


Yeah. Admittedly, I am ignorant on the exact methodology of this book, but it seems like a truly interesting approach would be a longitudinal study of a large number of people.

You can't just take a snapshot of wealth data and start drawing conclusions. Too many other factors in play. Inherited wealth being only one of them.
This post was edited on 7/24/18 at 2:01 pm
Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
Member since Aug 2015
8636 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 2:02 pm to
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higher than doctors and attorneys (which isn't surprising because they are typically bad with money)

Gonna need your source on that one.
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