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re: The major changes coming for your washers and dryers in the next three years
Posted on 6/30/24 at 6:54 pm to Will Cover
Posted on 6/30/24 at 6:54 pm to Will Cover
Both of mine are on their last legs
Posted on 6/30/24 at 7:04 pm to Will Cover
Purchased Speed Queens 2 years ago. They are awesome.
We have the TR7 washer and DR7 dryer.
We have the TR7 washer and DR7 dryer.
This post was edited on 6/30/24 at 7:15 pm
Posted on 6/30/24 at 7:06 pm to Will Cover
They pitch it as if it somehow benefits the consumer. It does not. If a washer uses 30% less water that means it will perform 30% worse. And washers are, by and large, garbage compared to 20-30 years ago.
Why can't we make this water saving thing regional? If you sell in Cali or Arizona, I am fine with stricter water standards since they have frequent droughts. But it makes zero sense in the south or the Pacific Northwest, etc.
As for dryers, if you make them use less electricity, all it means is it will take clothes longer to dry. There is no engineering you can do to get around this. A heating element is already 100% efficient. All you can do is make it smaller and less powerful (and therefore less effective).
It's all a racket put in place by the climate change cult.
Why can't we make this water saving thing regional? If you sell in Cali or Arizona, I am fine with stricter water standards since they have frequent droughts. But it makes zero sense in the south or the Pacific Northwest, etc.
As for dryers, if you make them use less electricity, all it means is it will take clothes longer to dry. There is no engineering you can do to get around this. A heating element is already 100% efficient. All you can do is make it smaller and less powerful (and therefore less effective).
It's all a racket put in place by the climate change cult.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 7:08 pm to AUstar
Hopefully when Biden gets the boot here in a few months, they will roll back a lot of these EPA changes
Posted on 6/30/24 at 7:08 pm to dlambe5
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If we see a 40% reduction in energy but it takes me 60% longer to dry my clothes are we really saving energy?
It wont, what they will be regulating is heat pump clothes dryers, just like heat pump water heaters these typically work better than non-heat pump models and are 3-4x more efficient.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 7:09 pm to HouseMom
Bought a speed Queen dryer about 2 years ago. Got the washer 3 weeks ago. Both are fantastic. Will never use another brand again.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:58 pm to tigeraddict
quote:God I hope the truck manufacturers have the balls to go after fmcsa and the epa for all of the bullshite they've done to the modern semi truck. It would be a huge accomplishment to get half of the power back in these tricks so we can get up to interstate speeds in less than three miles. It's gotten completely ridiculous.
Administrative agencies no longer have the kind of rules leeway.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 1:00 am to Will Cover
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The updated standards—first reported by Grist—will result in top-loading clothes washers that are 11 percent more energy efficient than similar current machines while using 28 percent less water. Dryers will see up to a 40 percent reduction in energy use, depending on the model. The requirements are in line with current Energy Star efficiency benchmarks, and will apply to equipment produced after March 1, 2028.
Well.....this always ends well
Posted on 7/1/24 at 6:31 am to Will Cover
My washer and dryer are both 20+ years old. I can rubuild either one for a pittance compared to buying any new machine. Just serviced the washer, old direct-drive setup, with heavy-duty clutch kit and new seals so it should last another 20 years.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 6:45 am to AubieinNC2009
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just like heat pump water heaters these typically work better than non-heat pump models and are 3-4x more efficient.
Better for who? They are also nowhere close to that efficient in real world useage and, like heat pump water heaters, have specific installation requirements that are not feasible for many people.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 6:48 am to Will Cover
We had this fridge that sucked balls.
It had a lower global warming potential though.
But instead of having one for many years you got to get a new one every year.
Sounds like a good way to save the planet.
It had a lower global warming potential though.
But instead of having one for many years you got to get a new one every year.
Sounds like a good way to save the planet.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:25 am to DeoreDX
What model no.? I’m looking, but reviews for everything are all over the place. Thank you.
This post was edited on 7/1/24 at 8:26 am
Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:35 am to Dixie2023
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speed queen
Bought a set two years ago. Worth the hype
Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:43 am to Will Cover
We’re going to have to replace our washer and dryer soon. We’ll definitely go with Speed Queen. Do you guys think it would be worth it to go with a gas dryer? I have a gas line in the wall right behind the dryer.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:44 am to dlambe5
quote:Yes, 40%.
If we see a 40% reduction in energy but it takes me 60% longer to dry my clothes are we really saving energy?
Energy is what you pay for, measured in kilowatt-hours. You are confusing energy with power, which is measured in kilowatts (without the -hours).
If it should happen to take 60% longer to dry your clothes, then the dryer would be using ~63% less power over that time in order to save 40% energy.
1kw/1hr = 0.6 * (kw/1.6hr)
1 = 0.6 / 1.6 = 0.375 = 37.5% of the power = 62.5% less power
This is easily achievable by switching from resistive heating to a heat pump.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:37 am to Napoleon
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A new kind of dryer has appeared. One that uses a fridge compressor to pull moisture from clothes.
I do not want another "freon" system in my house, especially one which will have moving parts and susceptible vibration induced failures.
Also, won't this new dryer require a drain line? My house wasn't plumbed with a drain line for the dryer....

Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:52 am to Will Cover
This will just result in having to wash and dry loads of clothes twice to get them actually clean and dry, which will end up costing more energy.
More government always makes things worse.
More government always makes things worse.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 10:29 am to FlyingPelican
quote:Why not? Heat pumps are amazing. It kind of pisses me off that I pay for my dryer to heat up air and shoot it outside after I already paid for my AC to cool that air. Clothes will last longer too.
I do not want another "freon" system in my house
quote:Surely it has a drain line for the washer, use that one....
Also, won't this new dryer require a drain line? My house wasn't plumbed with a drain line for the dryer....
Posted on 7/1/24 at 10:30 am to Will Cover
I have a 2022 Speed Queen Washer and Dryer.
It's under warranty until like 2030.
It's under warranty until like 2030.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 10:31 am to Will Cover
If I have to wash my hunting and fishing stuff 2 or 3 times in a row to get them clean... how does that power savings stuff work?
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