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re: The major changes coming for your washers and dryers in the next three years

Posted on 6/30/24 at 6:54 pm to
Posted by Mr Clean
Power I-Formation
Member since Aug 2006
52571 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 6:54 pm to
Both of mine are on their last legs
Posted by Dirk Dawgler
Where I Am
Member since Nov 2011
3406 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 7:04 pm to
Purchased Speed Queens 2 years ago. They are awesome.

We have the TR7 washer and DR7 dryer.
This post was edited on 6/30/24 at 7:15 pm
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
18459 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 7:06 pm to
They pitch it as if it somehow benefits the consumer. It does not. If a washer uses 30% less water that means it will perform 30% worse. And washers are, by and large, garbage compared to 20-30 years ago.

Why can't we make this water saving thing regional? If you sell in Cali or Arizona, I am fine with stricter water standards since they have frequent droughts. But it makes zero sense in the south or the Pacific Northwest, etc.

As for dryers, if you make them use less electricity, all it means is it will take clothes longer to dry. There is no engineering you can do to get around this. A heating element is already 100% efficient. All you can do is make it smaller and less powerful (and therefore less effective).

It's all a racket put in place by the climate change cult.
Posted by Civildawg
Member since May 2012
9773 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 7:08 pm to
Hopefully when Biden gets the boot here in a few months, they will roll back a lot of these EPA changes
Posted by AubieinNC2009
Mountain NC
Member since Dec 2018
6414 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 7:08 pm to
quote:


If we see a 40% reduction in energy but it takes me 60% longer to dry my clothes are we really saving energy?


It wont, what they will be regulating is heat pump clothes dryers, just like heat pump water heaters these typically work better than non-heat pump models and are 3-4x more efficient.
Posted by EnglebertHumperdink
Club Med
Member since Nov 2009
278 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 7:09 pm to
Bought a speed Queen dryer about 2 years ago. Got the washer 3 weeks ago. Both are fantastic. Will never use another brand again.
Posted by Horsemeat
Truckin' somewhere in the US
Member since Dec 2014
14515 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:58 pm to
quote:

Administrative agencies no longer have the kind of rules leeway.
God I hope the truck manufacturers have the balls to go after fmcsa and the epa for all of the bullshite they've done to the modern semi truck. It would be a huge accomplishment to get half of the power back in these tricks so we can get up to interstate speeds in less than three miles. It's gotten completely ridiculous.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
61728 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 1:00 am to
quote:

The updated standards—first reported by Grist—will result in top-loading clothes washers that are 11 percent more energy efficient than similar current machines while using 28 percent less water. Dryers will see up to a 40 percent reduction in energy use, depending on the model. The requirements are in line with current Energy Star efficiency benchmarks, and will apply to equipment produced after March 1, 2028.


Well.....this always ends well
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
17796 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 6:31 am to
My washer and dryer are both 20+ years old. I can rubuild either one for a pittance compared to buying any new machine. Just serviced the washer, old direct-drive setup, with heavy-duty clutch kit and new seals so it should last another 20 years.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
17796 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 6:45 am to
quote:

just like heat pump water heaters these typically work better than non-heat pump models and are 3-4x more efficient.


Better for who? They are also nowhere close to that efficient in real world useage and, like heat pump water heaters, have specific installation requirements that are not feasible for many people.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
79732 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 6:48 am to
We had this fridge that sucked balls.

It had a lower global warming potential though.

But instead of having one for many years you got to get a new one every year.

Sounds like a good way to save the planet.

Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
3590 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:25 am to
What model no.? I’m looking, but reviews for everything are all over the place. Thank you.
This post was edited on 7/1/24 at 8:26 am
Posted by Alyosha
Member since Nov 2020
8240 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:35 am to
quote:

speed queen


Bought a set two years ago. Worth the hype
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15692 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:43 am to
We’re going to have to replace our washer and dryer soon. We’ll definitely go with Speed Queen. Do you guys think it would be worth it to go with a gas dryer? I have a gas line in the wall right behind the dryer.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29002 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:44 am to
quote:

If we see a 40% reduction in energy but it takes me 60% longer to dry my clothes are we really saving energy?
Yes, 40%.

Energy is what you pay for, measured in kilowatt-hours. You are confusing energy with power, which is measured in kilowatts (without the -hours).

If it should happen to take 60% longer to dry your clothes, then the dryer would be using ~63% less power over that time in order to save 40% energy.

1kw/1hr = 0.6 * (kw/1.6hr)
1 = 0.6 / 1.6 = 0.375 = 37.5% of the power = 62.5% less power

This is easily achievable by switching from resistive heating to a heat pump.
Posted by FlyingPelican
St. George, Louisiana
Member since Sep 2021
198 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:37 am to
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A new kind of dryer has appeared. One that uses a fridge compressor to pull moisture from clothes.


I do not want another "freon" system in my house, especially one which will have moving parts and susceptible vibration induced failures.

Also, won't this new dryer require a drain line? My house wasn't plumbed with a drain line for the dryer....
Posted by Death Before Disco
Member since Dec 2009
6303 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:52 am to
This will just result in having to wash and dry loads of clothes twice to get them actually clean and dry, which will end up costing more energy.

More government always makes things worse.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29002 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 10:29 am to
quote:

I do not want another "freon" system in my house
Why not? Heat pumps are amazing. It kind of pisses me off that I pay for my dryer to heat up air and shoot it outside after I already paid for my AC to cool that air. Clothes will last longer too.
quote:

Also, won't this new dryer require a drain line? My house wasn't plumbed with a drain line for the dryer....
Surely it has a drain line for the washer, use that one....
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17179 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 10:30 am to
I have a 2022 Speed Queen Washer and Dryer.

It's under warranty until like 2030.
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
22364 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 10:31 am to
If I have to wash my hunting and fishing stuff 2 or 3 times in a row to get them clean... how does that power savings stuff work?

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