re: The Healthcare Marketplace SUCKS!

Wait til dems win the house on tuesday. Maxine Waters in charge of finance.....oy vey

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After the morning I've had dealing with Blue Cross Blue Shield and their outrageous copays ($125 to see a doc in the box without a referral from a primary care physician).

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Did you sign up for a HMO?

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How did health care in this country get so fricked up?

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insurance

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its the same as the other thread on the $45k helicopter flight. Health providers long ago signed up for the “network” (body shops did the same thing). To be in the network you have to offer (give) discounts to the insurance company. Well, you didn’t go to 8 years of medical school to work for nothing so you mark up that $1.00 Motrin to $1.50. You then give the insurance a discount of $.25 and keep $.25 for yourself. After all, you’re in business to make money. That’s how it starts. Pretty soon you’re charging $2.50 for that $1.00 Motrin because the insurance company is asking for steeper discounts from you if “you want to stay in network”.

Joe blow has to pay for insurance because of “rising costs” of health care.

Now your patient decides to shop elsewhere for his medical needs because your costs are to high. After searching, he finds they’re all the same price in the area because of the “prevailing rate” in that area. The prevailing rate is set by insurance (same as a body shop).

Now if I own, say, a railroad business and I decide to get with a few other railroad tycoons and set prices for our services, that would be illegal because of the Sherman Antitrust Laws. Maybe, as a doctor, you want to talk to other care providers in your area. Maybe y’all can come to concensus on prices so you all make good money and the insurance company can go piss up a tree. Nah, that’s also a violation of the Antitrust Laws and you would find yourself in federal prison.

You know who Antitrust Laws don’t apply to? Insurance companies.

Why don’t these laws apply?

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I don't know enough to know how that would be possible, but there has to be away both parties can put together something that is actually helpful to all, but as long as lobbyist and special interest groups have as much power as they do, it will likely never happen.

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Does this include the illegal aliens coming into the country daily?

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Obama. The ACA was meant to fail to usher in single payer government run healthcare.

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Lol. fricking idiot. I'm guessing you watch fox news, support trump, and are a politard.

A whole lot of conspiracy theorists in this thread.

It certainly isn't the only problem, but a surefire way to reduce our healthcare costs is to reduce the cost of delivering healthcare.

Tort reform would be a great place to start. Insurance premiums for physicians are out of control. My colleague is married to an OBGYN and she has to maintain her insurance even after she retires until the last baby she delivered turns 18.

This also leads to defensive care, where physicians are acting as much in your best interest as they are in covering their own asses.

Fraud is another area where costs (especially medicare/medicaid) can spiral. Vigilant enforcement with serious penalties will help to combat this.

The American healthcare system was fricked up way before Obama came into the picture. It was rather fricked up when the Clinton's tried to do something.

If the Republicans do not make an honest and rational attempt to fix underlying problems, then they may very well end up with a single payer system. Repeal and replace is all fine and well until you find out that replacement is just as terrible as its predecessor.

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They own it 100%. And all they have managed is to make it worse and more expensive since they started undermining what wasnt great to begin with.

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Republicans didn't create the current law.

I just can't wrap my head around the idea that some people were in favor of the government forcing people to purchase a product.

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The Republican plan was actually much worse than Obamacare.

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What was the plan?

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I'm kinda happy trump has managed to undermine Obamacare and make insurance worse and more expensive

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Obamacare is still in place idiot.

They made they current law worse.

You do realize insurance premiums were rising EVEN faster before Obamacare and Medicare and Medicaid were getting close to insolvency? Doing nothing was NEVER an option even before Obamacare.

I am highly amused trump keeps undercutting it and driving premiums even higher. Like when he got rid of the individual mandate, that pulled billions out and increased premiums. I want trump supporters to suffer for what they foisted on the majority of the country who didnt vote for him.

I just wish trumpcare would have passed which was much worse.

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Obamacare is still in place idiot.

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Two years in and still no solution/fix. Are you surprised?