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re: The ‘growing crisis of the young American male’ could send home prices falling for years
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:06 pm to jizzle6609
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:06 pm to jizzle6609
I think there's a few options between those extremes. The truth is that they need to "struggle".
The sharp/ harsh reality from childhood to adulthood in our society is creating a massive whole that some fall in and others jump to the other side.
Kids have it hard or have it easy. Its easier for parents to let their kids have it easy than to teach them what's hard. And that's what happened whether people want to admit it or not.
Parents will give their kids everything the kids wants his whole childhood. Kids does well in school, kid goes to college, kid graduates college. Kid never had issues with the law. "He's a great succesful kid"! BUT parents paid for everything.
Kid doesn't know how insurance works, kid doesn't know how taxes work, etc. But its "easy" for the parents especially if they have the money.
Kid becomes an "adult". Can't find a job, can't hold a job, has crazy expectations. Parents get pissed and finally "sink or swim"
These parents teach their kids to swim on carpet and then are suprised what happens when they get thrown in the pool...
The truth is that the generation that had the good times raised the soft people. It was the easy thing to do and times were hard before that so it was deserving. Their childhood was rough so they want their kids to experience something better.
But they get too lost enjoying it themselves to teach the lessons that got them there. And lack the realization that you can only live in a moment for that moment as a parent.
The sharp/ harsh reality from childhood to adulthood in our society is creating a massive whole that some fall in and others jump to the other side.
Kids have it hard or have it easy. Its easier for parents to let their kids have it easy than to teach them what's hard. And that's what happened whether people want to admit it or not.
Parents will give their kids everything the kids wants his whole childhood. Kids does well in school, kid goes to college, kid graduates college. Kid never had issues with the law. "He's a great succesful kid"! BUT parents paid for everything.
Kid doesn't know how insurance works, kid doesn't know how taxes work, etc. But its "easy" for the parents especially if they have the money.
Kid becomes an "adult". Can't find a job, can't hold a job, has crazy expectations. Parents get pissed and finally "sink or swim"
These parents teach their kids to swim on carpet and then are suprised what happens when they get thrown in the pool...
The truth is that the generation that had the good times raised the soft people. It was the easy thing to do and times were hard before that so it was deserving. Their childhood was rough so they want their kids to experience something better.
But they get too lost enjoying it themselves to teach the lessons that got them there. And lack the realization that you can only live in a moment for that moment as a parent.
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Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:06 pm to ragincajun03
Housing isn't going to crash because of males 
This is so stupid for so many reasons. We have an extreme shortage of housing right now and even with 'higer' rates prices are staying stable.
This is so stupid for so many reasons. We have an extreme shortage of housing right now and even with 'higer' rates prices are staying stable.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:10 pm to VolSquatch
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This is big. My parents weren't bad with money in terms of blowing it on things and living in excess, but weren't in any position to teach anyone about it either
I wish I had the almost passionate stance I have toward finance now 15-20 years ago.
I have taken it for granted for a long time. I am a huge on getting personal finance into schools. We are failing here miserably and even if your mom or pop are educated, if you arent educated in the ways of finance it doesnt matter.
Everyone always seems to complain about money but all these same folks drink, smoke, go on multi vacations. have a camp, send kids to private school, drive luxury cars, etc.
I went on vacation but it was modest. My parents never drove luxury cars, ever or even leased a car. They shared 1 car for the first 3 years of marriage. Credit Cards were forbidden until they had to cash to pay them off monthly. They rented furniture until they saved up enough to buy some outright.
So for me to sit here and read how hard it is for these young white boys out there makes me fricking laugh.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:12 pm to HoustonChick86
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What's nice is the just before Covid buy. We bought our house in summer of 2019, and had it appraised 2 weeks ago. It appraised for more than double what we bought it for.
But also made the house I'm buying more expensive than it would have been in 2019 so there is that.
Bought one in 2019 as well but unloaded 2022 at peak time. People way way overspent on housing in Houston especially in 77429 LOL.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:22 pm to jizzle6609
People are still having to put in really competitive offers here for the right house in the right area.
The house I'm in the process of buying had 6 showings and 2 offers on day one. I only won out because I went $200 over asking and am letting them stay in it after closing until the guy finishes his residency in May.
Its kind of insane to me, but I have a 6 year old so staying in his school district is super important, and it is pretty small compared to others near us.
The house I'm in the process of buying had 6 showings and 2 offers on day one. I only won out because I went $200 over asking and am letting them stay in it after closing until the guy finishes his residency in May.
Its kind of insane to me, but I have a 6 year old so staying in his school district is super important, and it is pretty small compared to others near us.
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:24 pm to jizzle6609
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Bought one in 2019
So what's not young if parents shouldn't be buying houses at 50?
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:30 pm to kingbob
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All of the most important decisions were made by entrenched bureaucrats over whom elected officials have almost zero oversight.
This is simply not true.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:38 pm to HoustonChick86
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and am letting them stay in it after closing until the guy finishes his residency in May.
This is huge and if you are willing to do can win you the home over better offers.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:40 pm to jizzle6609
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This is the problem. You have morons like the one downvoting this post who clearly support lazy trash that lays around all day.
That’s this entire thread. Men shouldn’t try anymore and reject society apparently. Just a bunch of weak men.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:43 pm to Fat and Happy
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Gonna have some people seriously in their feelings when the house they bought during Covid doesn’t appraise for anything close to what they bought it for
When is that going to happen?
Prices nationwide could fall substantially and they’d still be higher than 2020 prices.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:44 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Prices nationwide could fall substantially and they’d still be higher than 2020 prices.
Seems pretty obvious he isn't talking about the 6-8 months or so where prices were relatively low and interest rates were sub 3%.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:45 pm to r0cky1
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Men shouldn’t try anymore and reject society apparently.
My argument is that men haven’t stopped trying and are working as hard, if not harder, than previous generations, but that economic conditions are causing them to effectively go nowhere. They’re going to school longer, taking out more debt to do it, to get a worse job that pays less, and often also working an additional job just to afford a lower standard of living than their parents enjoyed while being gaslit constantly about how “lazy” and “toxic” they all are. It’s straight up Sisyphean. Throw in the completely broken dating/social culture while they have less disposable income to spend on socializing than ever before, and it’s no wonder so many are opting to eat the bullet.
Do you want to be a slave, a couch surfer, or a douche wannabe influencer? Those are your choices.
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:46 pm to ragincajun03
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This post was edited on 5/5/25 at 10:21 am
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:51 pm to ragincajun03
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You have men staying single longer…and then you have what I call a growing crisis of the young American male…they’re twice as likely to live at home than women. So one out of five young men live at home with their parents, and these aren’t young men going to college and coming home for holiday breaks, these are young, grown men choosing to live at home,” Whitney told CNBC this morning.
The pussifcation of America has been a roaring success for the left.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:54 pm to HoustonChick86
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People are still having to put in really competitive offers here for the right house in the right area.
The house I'm in the process of buying had 6 showings and 2 offers on day one. I only won out because I went $200 over asking and am letting them stay in it after closing until the guy finishes his residency in May.
Its kind of insane to me, but I have a 6 year old so staying in his school district is super important, and it is pretty small compared to others near us.
We only needed the first weekend of showings. 18 offers came in at asking or above. I have never seen anything like it.
The real estate company had to make a PowerPoint to go through all the potential buyers, their lenders, etc. etc. Have fun!!
Posted on 4/3/24 at 3:01 pm to Darth_Vader
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these are young, grown men choosing to live at home,” Whitney told CNBC this morning.
The pussifcation of America has been a roaring success for the left.
Are these men “choosing” to live at home out of personal preference or economic necessity? I think economic/business journalists should be more criticized for how they frequently frame changing consumer behavior as a changing of tastes rather than an issue of affordability. I can’t tell you how many articles I read about “are millennials killing _____?” Where the journalist tried to frame the issue as millennials not liking a given thing, only at the end of the article to show economic data that indicates that millennials simply can’t afford the thing.
I think a big issue for this board in particular is that many see wealth, or at least the signals of wealth, as signals of morality, and thus a lack of economic success (or a lack of signaling specific avatars for success) as purely a moral failing. They see effort and decision making as the only variables, completely eliminating external factors. Reality simply isn’t that cut and dry, and while effort and conventional decision-making can help a lot, the environmental headwinds against achieving conventional markers of success have grown by leaps and bounds.
I do not see a generation failing because they are lazy, foolish, or immoral. I see an economic disaster wreaking serious lasting social consequences on society in general, and lots and lots of people either struggling to figure out how to navigate it, or unable to comprehend that it’s happening because it doesn’t impact them to the same extent.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 3:09 pm to kingbob
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Do you want to be a slave, a couch surfer, or a douche wannabe influencer? Those are your choices.
Is this satire? Christ sake
Posted on 4/3/24 at 3:18 pm to r0cky1
[quote]Is this satire? Christ sake[/quote
More sardonic exaggeration highlighting the absurdity of modern “hustle” culture as seen online.
More sardonic exaggeration highlighting the absurdity of modern “hustle” culture as seen online.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 3:22 pm to kingbob
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Are these men “choosing” to live at home out of personal preference or economic necessity? I think economic/business journalists should be more criticized for how they frequently frame changing consumer behavior as a changing of tastes rather than an issue of affordability. I can’t tell you how many articles I read about “are millennials killing _____?” Where the journalist tried to frame the issue as millennials not liking a given thing, only at the end of the article to show economic data that indicates that millennials simply can’t afford the thing.
I think a big issue for this board in particular is that many see wealth, or at least the signals of wealth, as signals of morality, and thus a lack of economic success (or a lack of signaling specific avatars for success) as purely a moral failing. They see effort and decision making as the only variables, completely eliminating external factors. Reality simply isn’t that cut and dry, and while effort and conventional decision-making can help a lot, the environmental headwinds against achieving conventional markers of success have grown by leaps and bounds.
I do not see a generation failing because they are lazy, foolish, or immoral. I see an economic disaster wreaking serious lasting social consequences on society in general, and lots and lots of people either struggling to figure out how to navigate it, or unable to comprehend that it’s happening because it doesn’t impact them to the same extent.
I think most choose to. You cannot tell me they have done everything in their power to obtain employment, stay employed and become productive.
The problem is they want to do what they want to do when they want to do it and expect a blank check when they frick up.
This is life, you dont get to choose every single thing you want to do. Life is not fair. The sooner young folks start to understand that the better.
Everyone is so wrapped up with what other people think about them they become nothing.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 3:24 pm to jizzle6609
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The sooner young folks start to understand that the better.
You've bought two house in the last 5 years and aren't young, but also say 50 year olds shouldn't be buying houses. How old are you?
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