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re: The gloves are off regarding St. George...

Posted on 1/12/14 at 3:37 pm to
Posted by Mahootney
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Posted on 1/12/14 at 3:37 pm to
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Research Sandy Springs, GA
I know... I read your article.

I was just providing logical reinforcement about why your link was valuable and important.
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
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Posted on 1/12/14 at 3:39 pm to
4) or live in BR and put your kids in private school.
Posted by Mahootney
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Posted on 1/12/14 at 3:41 pm to
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People make choices based on information and perceived personal/overall gain. It's important to get the information as accurate as possible so people can make the best choice. It's why politics is shite. Information is twisted, withheld, manipulated, etc. so votes/choices can be manipulated as well.
Well said.
Posted by Traffic Circle
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Posted on 1/12/14 at 3:43 pm to
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People make choices based on information and perceived personal/overall gain. It's important to get the information as accurate as possible so people can make the best choice. It's why politics is shite. Information is twisted, withheld, manipulated, etc. so votes/choices can be manipulated as well.


But this is true at all levels of public voting and input.

This is what dictators say to stop the people from having a voice.
Posted by Mahootney
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Posted on 1/12/14 at 3:44 pm to
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If BR has such great schools and such great leadership and a great bond rating and really don't receive that much money from the unicorporated area seeking to incorporate into its own city then why is it such a big deal to these city leaders and the people who live in the city of BR? Why are they calling half the city racists because of where they live? Why don't they want these people to vote?
Excellent point.

Maybe they are just looking out for SG's best interests. Happens all the time, you know, politicians looking out for other peoples' best interests and not their own.
Posted by Mahootney
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Posted on 1/12/14 at 3:46 pm to
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4) or live in BR and put your kids in private school.
Let me see if I can find how much it costs for private schools in BR and see how much the SG taxes would have to go up to be economically better.

ETA: 2013 Parkview ~$7685.33/yr

Anhh. Too much work. Found this thread on TD discussing the issue. LINK
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For the 2007-2008 school year, annual tuition for LSU's Lab School for all grades was $3,652. Tuition at St. Joseph’s Academy was $7,931; at Parkview Baptist, $5,440 to $5,865; and at Episcopal High School, $9,850 to $12,900.
Since Parkview has gone up around $2k in 5 years. Let's assume that all of the figures listed haven't gone down and are at least the same.

With that said, you either have to move out of EBR, win the BRHS lottery, or pay at least $3k - $7k for a quality private school education.

Anyone want to claim that the SG taxes will go up by $3k?
This post was edited on 1/12/14 at 3:58 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 1/12/14 at 3:47 pm to
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This is what dictators say to stop the people from having a voice.
No. It's what I say to warn people not to trust politicians and to come to one's own conclusion based on independent information.
Posted by LT
The City of St. George
Member since May 2008
5163 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 3:54 pm to
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and really don't receive that much money from the unicorporated area seeking to incorporate into its own city then why is it such a big deal to these city leaders and the people who live in the city of BR?


What's funny is the people posting that BR doesn't receive money from the unincorporated area are actually posting in a thread who's first post has a link to the advocate. That link outlines the council meeting where they discussed trying to lock down said money for ten more years.

Amazing to me.
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/12/14 at 3:59 pm to
EBRPSS has done such an awesome job that many of the young families have left.....

LINK
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15803 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 4:03 pm to
Another great article on Sandy Springs that worth reading.


LINK
Posted by Mahootney
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 1/12/14 at 4:03 pm to

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"People with young children all want the same thing: a safe place to raise their kids with access to good schools," LSU sociology professor Troy Blanchard said. "Ascension and Livingston have those characteristics."
So, people migrate in to go to LSU. Then they immediately relocated to other parishes upon graduation/starting a family.
This post was edited on 1/12/14 at 4:07 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88218 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 4:06 pm to
So college students come in, then they leave?
Posted by Mahootney
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 1/12/14 at 4:08 pm to
It explains the only positive EBR influx being in the college age demographics (17-22).
Kids from outside of EBR tend to live on or near campus to go to school.
This post was edited on 1/12/14 at 4:10 pm
Posted by Jefferson Davis
Plank Road
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/12/14 at 4:09 pm to
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So college students come in, then they leave?


That's me and just about everyone I know.
Posted by LT
The City of St. George
Member since May 2008
5163 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 4:17 pm to
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Anyone want to claim that the SG taxes will go up by $3k?


No kidding. The claim of $2k to $3K per year was made yesterday.
Posted by Mahootney
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 1/12/14 at 4:18 pm to
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No kidding. The claim of $2k to $3K per year was made yesterday.
If talking on a per capita basis on a city of 100k.....
That's a $200M - $300M increase.
Lulz.
Posted by Mahootney
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 1/12/14 at 4:21 pm to
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LSURussian

Posted by Beau Tie
Member since Oct 2012
951 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 4:27 pm to
What's amazing is your reading comprehension skills because I said doesn't receive THAT MUCH money from the unincorporated area. I never said no money or little money. People are here trying to say that SG couldn't survive on a per capita basis because they don't have enough money and yet in the same breath say that SG money taking out of the city budget would be a disastrous effect on BR. The only way this would be possible is if BR didn't have enough money to run its ship right now. If that was the case then they wouldn't have the triple A (AAA) rating they currently have.

So to the fella in here saying they need more information how about you dissect the information you have to see who's telling the truth.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135352 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 4:33 pm to
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If talking on a per capita basis on a city of 100k.....
That's a $200M - $300M increase.
The projected increase is for property taxes on a $340,000 home, not per person. Reading comprehension skills are not one of your strong points.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135352 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 4:36 pm to
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LSURussian



Aw, that's just so precious! You missed me!
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