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re: The futurist stories are fun to read: "It won't be pretty"

Posted on 1/6/20 at 1:36 pm to
Posted by red sox fan 13
Valley Park
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 1/6/20 at 1:36 pm to
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Accountants might be the first to go. Lawyers who aren’t on the bench, who create legal documents, could be next. Journalists who write the sports stories or Wall Street updates are easily replaced by a bit of machine learning. Actors will be replaced by CGI versions. Netflix will be able to create 50 editions of a single show with characters who are black or white, Asian or African, young or old, depending on the demographics they’re trying to reach.


This is just fearmongering, being an actual human is a pretty fricking important part of doing these jobs and I highly highly doubt we will have technology that can do these things by 2030.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 1/6/20 at 1:47 pm to
Good.

Puts everyone on equal. Let's see frickers like joy behar and john legend grow a garden and fish, hunt and kill terminators to survive when the world no longer needs blood.
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
9278 posts
Posted on 1/6/20 at 2:01 pm to
The technology may exist but it won’t be universal. That being said, “technology creates jobs” doesn’t really apply to human level AI. Human level AI isn’t a tool to assist humans be more efficient. It’s literally replacing humans.

And unless laws are placed to curtail this, what business is going to pay a human to do a job an AI could do for free? With no need for healthcare or timeoff?

It’s going to be a rude awakening for the hard line anti-government/pure capitalists in here.

Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 1/6/20 at 2:21 pm to
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That being said, “technology creates jobs” doesn’t really apply to human level AI. Human level AI isn’t a tool to assist humans be more efficient. It’s literally replacing humans.

This is what people don't understand. When AI gets to human level intelligence it will already have surpassed us because it can focus on thinking about one problem 24 hours a day 7 days a week.

In human history we have never created a tool that can out-create its creator but we are starting to do that now for simple tasks.

One thing that is holding AI back is processing power. But quantum computing may open the floodgates for that.

AI right now is in its infancy. It's hard for most people to imagine what it will look like when it truly gets rolling.
Posted by red sox fan 13
Valley Park
Member since Aug 2018
19239 posts
Posted on 1/6/20 at 2:37 pm to
What happens when the robots start asking for rights and a paycheck?
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 1/6/20 at 2:41 pm to
I can't wait for the day when useless people like Kim Kardashian have to suck dick on film to make money.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 1/6/20 at 2:44 pm to
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I can't wait for the day when useless people like Kim Kardashian have to suck dick on film to make money.

We will have perfected sex robot actresses by then.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 1/6/20 at 2:45 pm to
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Historically, new tech has created more jobs than it replaced. But there's no assurance that that is inevitable in the future.
On the other hand, with new technology, we should be able to take care of people efficiently. Amidst the howls of "socialism" (which is government ownership of business, not social programs - ahem) we'll have to do that.



I agree, new tech certainly means new jobs - but those are typically fewer in number as technology breeds efficiency. If you take that out to its conclusion, and assuming breakthroughs in AI, we will need to start changing the ways we view work.

And, as you said, these breakthroughs should allow us to take care of our citizens and hopefully free people to perform work they find meaningful. Working with elders, children's sports, taking up the arts, etc.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 1/6/20 at 2:49 pm to
I am shifting part of my business to installing and maintaining the robots that will be used to put people out of work. This year, my son who will be 15 in a couple months will be learning to write code and program/trouble shoot these machines. If he likes it and wants to travel around with me doing it, I’ll probably be paying him 40-50k next year and I’m guessing 6 figures+ before he hits 18. By 25, he’ll be running that division if he wants to.

Gotta stay ahead of the curve.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
30208 posts
Posted on 1/6/20 at 3:08 pm to
lol at the people thinking their jobs are protected from automation and AI. We're all on the chopping block. It's just a matter of time.

We have a lot of existential things to work through as a species in the next decade, and yet we currently can't even agree on simple things. Buckle up, boys, the world is going to be crazy different in twenty years - assuming most of us are here to see it.
Posted by red sox fan 13
Valley Park
Member since Aug 2018
19239 posts
Posted on 1/6/20 at 3:40 pm to
What will be the point of humanity then if robots do everything in society? Will robots make our shows and films? Will robots play pro sports too like this Fox robot? I would say humans need to start colonizing other planets, but people will say “muh why are we wasting money on space travel, let’s invest another hundred billion in the military instead.”
Posted by TexasTiger90
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Jul 2014
3576 posts
Posted on 1/6/20 at 3:42 pm to
Can't replace industrial construction, baw
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122527 posts
Posted on 1/6/20 at 3:45 pm to
People been saying this shite ever since the Cotton gin was invented.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
30208 posts
Posted on 1/6/20 at 4:33 pm to
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What will be the point of humanity then if robots do everything in society?


That's one of the existential things I mentioned we have to work through. It doesn't do us any good to wonder if the machines will replace us. They will. Instead, we need to know what we're going to do before we're replaced. I don't know the answer, but I know it's coming sooner than most think and we need to be honest about that and have a discussion that leads to options.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11842 posts
Posted on 1/6/20 at 4:38 pm to
Will we need the jobs if Abortions continue to be celebrated and people continue not having kids?

I hear on one hand robots will take our jobs then on the other we have a population growth problem.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
30208 posts
Posted on 1/6/20 at 4:42 pm to
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People been saying this shite ever since the Cotton gin was invented.


A mechanical device with a hand crank a fully autonomous machine capable of learning on it's own are two vastly different jumps in technology. One replaces a worker. The other replaces a species.
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
7751 posts
Posted on 1/6/20 at 5:28 pm to
Realtors will be replaced by simple search engines by the year 2003 ... wait a minute.
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