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re: The female happiness paradox

Posted on 4/11/24 at 6:17 am to
Posted by Gravitiger
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 6:17 am to
Lot of coded misogyny here.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 6:19 am to
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The bad life choice was who they married.
Which is not unique to men or women.
Posted by Evil Little Thing
Member since Jul 2013
11599 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 6:19 am to
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My SIL doesn’t work and her husband holds it over her head all of the time. They want her to get a job, but she doesn’t have a college degree. She got a job working in the front desk at her gym and he’s been a total a-hole about “she only has a job and not a career.”


Why did he marry her if those were things he wanted or expected in a wife?

She’s also an idiot for not knowing the financial details, but damn. Dude sounds like an a-hole.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
63228 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 6:42 am to
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It’s almost like feminism sold them a bunch of lies.

Feminism is a coordinated attack on western society.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109729 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 6:48 am to
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My SIL


This the one your 18 year old spilled the beans on the Easter Bunny to her 10 yo?
Posted by UncleRuckus
Member since Feb 2013
9671 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 6:52 am to
Women are crazy, this has always been known
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 6:56 am to
You can't make anyone happy, male or female. Happiness starts and ends from within. Each person should be the source of their own happiness.

You can help bring them joy, fulfillment, and being intentional with them, but you can't bring them happiness.

Many people today confuse what "happiness" really means. Happiness is a burden that no other person should wear or accept from the other. It's a weight that should not ever be carried by anyone else. It's actually very selfish of the person to place that burden on someone else other than themselves.

This post was edited on 4/11/24 at 7:04 am
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
13426 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 7:01 am to
In my experience of almost 30 years in the workforce with both men and women people are either happy or not.

It does not matter the circumstances. The happy people will be happy mostly everywhere and the unhappy will be mostly miserable everywhere.

Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12215 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 7:08 am to
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Feminism is a coordinated attack on western society.
Yeah, feminists don't exist in repressive eastern and southern countries.
This post was edited on 4/11/24 at 7:09 am
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
19196 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 7:09 am to
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We've all heard that if momma ain't happy, ain't nobody happy.


I’ve been married for 24 years and my wife hasn’t had to work for 16…and we have friends across the spectrum…married both working w/kids, married both working no kids, even one couple with no kids and the husband doesn’t work. So I have some insight into this.

The above statement is a red herring…an impossible goal. Women have a genetic drive to be busy. Likewise they want sympathy for how busy they are which leads us, in trying to make them happy, to take things off their plate. This doesn’t work as they just add more “stuff”. PTO duties, church groups, random work, etc. It’s a bucket that can’t be filled.

Likewise, the pity/sympathy game is strong. The ones that work complain about working, the ones that don’t complain about the rigors of being a stay at home mom, the ones without kids don’t seem fulfilled, the ones with kids wish they could have a level of freedom that they can’t with children. It’s a vicious circle that grows as they grow older.

A friend of mine once said “women are never happy because they don’t know what they want”. This is proven to be a very wise statement.

Also…to the women of the OT…I’m sure men are just as fricked up as well but I can’t see that from the same perspective.
Posted by Patfic15
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 7:11 am to
Get over it, women.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
20700 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 7:12 am to
My friend’s dad nearly divorced his wife of over 40 years because he had the bright idea to build her the house of her dreams. She couldn’t grasp the fact that she couldn’t decide on a detail and then change her mind halfway through the building/implementation of said detail.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12215 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 7:13 am to
This is absolutely retarded and not supported by any scientific research.

"Women have a genetic drive to be busy" Link?

We all have a drive to have some purpose. That purpose is not just "to be busy" for women. And it's not genetic to women.
This post was edited on 4/11/24 at 7:17 am
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
19196 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 7:16 am to
My CV:

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I’ve been married for 24 years and my wife hasn’t had to work for 16…and we have friends across the spectrum…married both working w/kids, married both working no kids, even one couple with no kids and the husband doesn’t work


What’s yours?
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12215 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 7:17 am to
That's not a CV.

And one personal experience does not qualify you to make conclusory statements about what all women want. I know plenty of women (and men) who love not being busy. But my anecdotal evidence is no more valuable than yours.

You clearly live in a sheltered upper middle class world where one wife makes so much her husband doesn't have to work. The people you interact with are not the average US citizen.

Again, tell me: What is the "genetic" drive for women to be busy?
This post was edited on 4/11/24 at 7:25 am
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133470 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 7:23 am to
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Feminism did not sell them lies; it gave them options. Many are choosing bad options.



Eh. I'd argue that they options were always there, they were just unpalatable on a societal level.

What feminism (and the progressivism that went with it) did was make those options palatable and now celebrated, while poo-poo-ing the traditional social mores.

Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12215 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 7:26 am to
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I'd argue that they options were always there
The options were literally legally not there until the late 20th century in most countries.

It's asinine to think women had the same legal rights as men (in the workplace, voting booth, doctor's office, divorce court, lawyer's office, etc.) until relatively recently.
This post was edited on 4/11/24 at 7:42 am
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133470 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 7:28 am to
Hence unpalatable


Yes, societal and legal barriers were there.

Let's not pretend they still didn't happen.
This post was edited on 4/11/24 at 7:28 am
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12215 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 7:28 am to
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Hence unpalatable


Yes, societal and legal barriers were there.

Let's not pretend they still didn't happen.
Unpalatable...illegal...same thing.

You're justifying women being legally unprotected from rape and property ownership because it was unpalatable.
This post was edited on 4/11/24 at 7:48 am
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
19196 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 7:33 am to
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Again, tell me: What is the "genetic" drive for women to be busy?


Sweet summer child.

Do you know any women with kids or of prime child bearing age?
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