re: The DKE closure at LSU is going to stay ugly for a while.

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The grandson was uncooperative, the grandfather said, but the grandfather started to talk to friends who were familiar with LSU’s DKE chapter, who told him pledges were being doused with gasoline.

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Normally I tend to disagree with the anti-hazing policies and pussification of Greek Life at LSU, but if that is true; WTF? Throwing gasoline on pledges is not hazing it. It is dangerous, irresponsible, and just fricking stupid. Why can't DKE just stick to f**king goats?

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You frat boys will be hanging from a cliff stranded because you have no cargo pocket to reach into and grab a spool of rope

You’ll scream to me for help

And all I’ll say is “No”

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frat guy here.. made it through SERE unscathed.... but I had cargos

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Forced branding is equally fricked up. There is a fine line between hazing and torture.

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I will wait for omega to get their punishment

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I think he meant more of what frats have become today.

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Right. That’s why I said In 2019. Maybe at some point in the past they were a net positive, but you can’t say that they’re worth the damage they’ve done in the last 5 years.

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Sounds like the grandfather is being a little bitch.

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In my opinion, looks like the grandfather may have saved his grandson’s life. Don’t get me wrong, I realize fraternity hazing and initiations have been around forever. Nothing wrong with it to a point. But, what that boy and his pledge class was having done to them was over to top. The fact that the kid was putting up with it shows he is probably a little insecure and would do anything to fit in. If he would have “gone active”, he would have probably upped the ante on the next group of pledges. In that case, he needed someone to step in before he became the next Ben Wynn or Max Gruver.

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ETA: when you think about it, that is a form of hazing, and the key to survival for that is the same as any form of hazing, realizing it's 90% or more mental from the get go

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and at the end of the day, they want you part of the crew.. .the weed out process was long since completed.

Funny, 18 year olds are considered developed enough to vote and live on their own, but now they are just insecure children. Maybe we shouldn’t coddle the frick out them and they will grow up to be men and not pussies.


Note: Nothing said above condones beating individuals, dousing people in flammable liquids, or forced copulation with farm animals.

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, to eliminate the sadists and power freaks.

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well, most of them

You know who I found to be the most sadistic and power hungry in terms of hazing? It wasn’t the high school athletes, wasn’t the “cool kids” from high school. It was the weird ones, the meek ones, the ones no one thought would be bad. Those people we deranged

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the ones no one thought would be bad.

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saw some of that, probably because that's the only opportunity in their lives to that point to be in a position of having the upper hand