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re: The Depp/Heard Trial is the gift that keeps on giving

Posted on 5/16/22 at 7:02 pm to
Posted by mmcgrath
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Posted on 5/16/22 at 7:02 pm to
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To be fair, "pledge" also means to promise to donate something.
Pretty sure that is the point. That they mean different things and are in no way synonymous.

When you donated blood, did the needle hurt?
Amber - "What needle?"
Posted by JudgeHolden
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Posted on 5/16/22 at 8:48 pm to
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Does that line of questioning make you trust her word?


Ordinarily, you cannot impeach someone on a statement unrelated to a fact at issue in the case.

Say you are in a car accident and testify that the light was green. The other side can’t put on evidence that you lied to your wife about an affair. It’s not at issue in the case.
This post was edited on 5/17/22 at 1:37 am
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:17 pm to
Posted by abellsujr
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 6:30 am to
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guess they are hammering on the donation issue because it shows her lying in ways that have nothing to do with Depp?
Its a very important aspect of characterizing Heard.

She promised to pay her 7 million dollar divorce settlement to charity. She received her entire settlement and didn’t pay a dime of it to charity. Not a dime. But she does have these apparently:



I guess she thinks the jury and the entire general public are as dumb as Lloyd Christmas.

She not only lies to everyone around her, she also lies to charitable organizations.

This post was edited on 5/17/22 at 6:32 am
Posted by Geekboy
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 7:17 am to
I’m betting she breaks down today. There is no way she can make it unscathed until Thursday. Vegas should have a betting line on this.
Posted by abellsujr
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 7:30 am to
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How does her welching on a pledge/donation make abuse more or less likely?
Its establishing her characterization.

The attorney is also trying to insinuate that she lied to the world and a charity to boost her career. It’s believable she would do the same about the abuse. It establishes how far she will go to try and boost her career.

It accomplishes a lot.
This post was edited on 5/17/22 at 7:43 am
Posted by JudgeHolden
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 8:05 am to
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It accomplishes a lot.


I agree.

But unless she referred to it on direct or its part of her counterclaim, it should not come in under the rules of evidence. It’s collateral impeachment.
Posted by abellsujr
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 8:10 am to
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But unless she referred to it on direct or its part of her counterclaim, it should not come in under the rules of evidence. It’s collateral impeachment.
Ah I understand now.

So what are the ramifications of that? What happens now?
Posted by JudgeHolden
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 8:12 am to
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So what are the ramifications of that? What happens now?


Not much. If the defense objected and was overruled, it will be a point on appeal. If the defense did not object, then the objection is waived.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 8:43 am to
Classic emotional abuse by Heard here.

One partner attempts to leave and deescalate. The other refuses and continues to pursue. And she didn’t deny it in the tape.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 8:55 am to
The Daily Mail says she could face a perjury probe in the UK. She apparently told the court there that she had already made the donation. We know now that was untrue.

Daily Mail
Posted by BearCrocs
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 8:58 am to
All the vague responses is night and day against her testimony last week lol.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 9:03 am to
She thinks she covered herself by saying “pledging” equals “donating”.
This post was edited on 5/17/22 at 9:09 am
Posted by Geekboy
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 9:09 am to
For Camille it is like shooting fish in a barrel.
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 9:19 am to
all these photos of her face with no bruising supposedly after she got the bejesus beaten out of her
Posted by Geekboy
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 9:21 am to
The fact that she can’t admit to ONE SINGLE THING she’s done wrong is rock solid proof she is a raging narcissist.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38456 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 9:21 am to
Apparently ice gives you superpowers. Who knew.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 9:23 am to
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The fact that she can’t admit to ONE SINGLE THING she’s done wrong is rock solid proof she is a raging narcissist.

just had another "everyone else is lying... I'm telling the truth" moment from Amber
Posted by TigerIron
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 9:25 am to
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This post was edited on 8/26/22 at 2:40 pm
Posted by JudgeHolden
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 9:31 am to
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Also, you're a lawyer, and you know lots of lawyer jargon. We get it.


Not trying to flex.

I don’t know what you do. But imagine watching someone do your job not-so-well on national television. You’d probably say some things.

Trials are stressful, and you are always going to blow some calls. There have been a large number of blown calls here.

Heard’s team gets more of a pass. I think they’ve got an uncontrollable client.
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