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re: The Depp/Heard Trial is the gift that keeps on giving

Posted on 5/16/22 at 5:04 pm to
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 5/16/22 at 5:04 pm to
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I guess they are hammering on the donation issue because it shows her lying in ways that have nothing to do with Depp? So that jurors who don't care for Depp are faced with her dishonesty (in ways that aren't confounded by their biases about Captain Morgan)?

I mean otherwise why linger on the donations issue? Amber clearly lies a lot and possibly constantly. At this point that seems established

that's the point

she lies

she's a liar

look at her... she's been lying

if she's willing to lie about giving Children's Hospital $7MM... she'll definitely lie to you, a juror, where she might be forced to give up $50MM

SHE LIED ABOUT HELPING SICK KIDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

she's a liar

plaintiff rests
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
18511 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 5:05 pm to
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she's a liar

Important point to beat home when pretty much her entire defense in based on her word and no real evidence.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12541 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 5:15 pm to
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No one is shocked you would argue such a nonsense interpretation.
Have you never been involved with any fundraising? It's a very common usage.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12541 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 5:16 pm to
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Except she didn’t actually make the donation.

Depp did in one case and Elon Musk did in another.


Pledging someone else’s money is a bit of an issue.
Never said she did.
Posted by DomincDecoco
RIP Ronnie fights Thoth’s loafers
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 5/16/22 at 5:21 pm to
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Gravitiger


shes not gonna frick you dude

Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12541 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 5:22 pm to
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shes not gonna frick you dude

I'm staunchly pro-Depp here. I'm just not such a fanboy that I can't recognize that words can have more than one meaning.
Posted by Central Tiger
Louisiana
Member since May 2006
2714 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 5:47 pm to
She’s said numerous times that she “donatED”. Can’t get to donatED if you don’t pass doNATE…..

Didn’t help her case that about 15 minutes prior to making her idiotic claim that she believes “pledge” and “donation” are synonymous, she stated that one of the reasons she didn’t want Depp to make the donation in her name was because she promised the charities the donation would be paid in full as soon as she got it, and she didn’t want Depp to drag it out for years by paying it in installments.
Posted by DomincDecoco
RIP Ronnie fights Thoth’s loafers
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Posted on 5/16/22 at 5:49 pm to
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I'm just not such a fanboy that I can't recognize that words can have more than one meaning.


your post history says otherwise...and thats fine.

its just that you appear to be playing contrarian for contrarians sake.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12541 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 5:50 pm to
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your post history says otherwise...and thats fine.
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its just that you appear to be playing contrarian for contrarians sake.
So am I a Depp fanboy? What in my post history suggests this?

Or am I playing contrarian for contrarian's sake? Because those two statements don't support each other.
This post was edited on 5/16/22 at 5:53 pm
Posted by Corso
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2020
12347 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 5:52 pm to
Her verbiage didn't really matter anyway. She had the $7 million for over a year and didn't pay off her "pledge"
Posted by DomincDecoco
RIP Ronnie fights Thoth’s loafers
Member since Oct 2018
11957 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 6:05 pm to
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So am I a Depp fanboy? What in my post history suggests this?


your wrote was you are staunchly Pro Depp...your post history says otherwise

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Or am I playing contrarian for contrarian's sake? Because those two statements don't support each other.


because, by contradicting everyone that posts something that is "pro depp", you are either being a contrarian or are not being truthful.

Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 6:05 pm to
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It was contained in a sworn statement she made in the Sun case I think.


I’d object like hell to that.
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
39297 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 6:05 pm to
Michael Scott pledged free tuition to an entire kindergarten class
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
7355 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 6:13 pm to
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To be fair, "pledge" also means to promise to donate something.


Pledge and Donate are not synonymous in any context and it’s dumb to argue anything else.

Pledge just means promise. Donate actually requires an action of some sort.

You can pledge a donation. You can pledge allegiance. But until you deliver on either, you’re not out anything.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
35956 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 6:15 pm to
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Michael Scott pledged free tuition to an entire kindergarten class





Not as a divorce settlement
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147314 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 6:29 pm to
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quote:

It was contained in a sworn statement she made in the Sun case I think.

I’d object like hell to that.

statements from The Sun lawsuit have been used all throughout the trial so far

it was said in open court during on the record proceedings... so it's allowed
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 6:32 pm to
I get that. It’s an admission of a party opponent.

Collateral impeachment is the problem. How does her welching on a pledge/donation make abuse more or less likely?

It’s 403 at a minimum.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
35956 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 6:34 pm to
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How does her welching on a pledge/donation make abuse more or less likely?



Well, she has no evidence of any of that except her word.


Does that line of questioning make you trust her word?
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49636 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 6:39 pm to
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How does her welching on a pledge/donation make abuse more or less likely?


I don't know that it will carry much weight, but they have to poke holes in her stories where they can.
Posted by 225rumpshaker
Texas
Member since Sep 2006
12978 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 6:47 pm to
Most damning thing to me in the entire cross examination just from a fact perspective was she admitted to having no evidence of Cap’n jack with a line of coke or other substances (sitting, standing next to, doing, etc).

So honestly from a jury perspective maybe Johnny gets shite faced and she puts shite out to make him look bad. Or if he is gone gets some pan make mix from the pantry with one of his jewelry boxes and says it’s his “cocaine” box.

This a lady just coming off as more bat shite crazy by the minute.
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