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re: The Depp/Heard Trial is the gift that keeps on giving

Posted on 5/15/22 at 9:41 am to
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 5/15/22 at 9:41 am to
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All that matters is if she says he was physical. If she says he was physical, it’s over.



thought this was a defamation suit, not a dv trial?
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/15/22 at 9:43 am to
Barkin testified in the sun trial that he never hit her, kicked her, or physically assaulted her in anyway. She did claim he got mad and threw a bottle against a wall but it didn’t hit anyone.
Posted by JudgeHolden
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Posted on 5/15/22 at 10:59 am to
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thought this was a defamation suit, not a dv trial?


Yes. But the defamatory statements do not name him and, IIRC, are not that strong. Let me see if I can find them.

Here is the strongest:

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Then two years ago, I became a public figure representing domestic abuse, and I felt the full force of our culture’s wrath for women who speak out.


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I had the rare vantage point of seeing, in real time, how institutions protect men accused of abuse.


She is clearly talking about Johnny. But I think all she says is “abuse.”

I think that you don’t have to believe much of what she says to find truth. That’s just my take.

FTR, I think it’s pretty clear she exaggerated what happened to her. Her credibility is very low based on her own testimony and well established facts. But I also think some pretty bad shite went down with Johnny Depo.

This post was edited on 5/15/22 at 11:07 am
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 5/15/22 at 1:36 pm to
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thought this was a defamation suit, not a dv trial?
You thought correct.

If the jury believes he could have been physically violent in any way ever to Heard, his defamation suit is over. So if he has two people saying he was physically violent towards them, that takes this case from having one crazy person spouting out nonsense, to two people saying he was physically violent. So imo, it would be highly unlikely the jury believes he wasn’t violent with Heard at least once.

However, it appears this witness has already testified he was never physically violent. Therefore, this does show Depp has a temper, but you still only have one crazy person spouting out nonsense about physical violence. This helps Depp more than anything imo if Depp’s attorneys play it right.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 5/15/22 at 1:39 pm to
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FTR, I think it’s pretty clear she exaggerated what happened to her.
Very much so. And as I stated immediately after she went ape shite on the stand a week ago, once this settles, you would begin to see people including the media start connecting the dots and calling her bull shite out. We are seeing that now.
This post was edited on 5/15/22 at 1:40 pm
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 5/15/22 at 1:48 pm to
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Barkin testified in the sun trial that he never hit her, kicked her, or physically assaulted her in anyway. She did claim he got mad and threw a bottle against a wall but it didn’t hit anyone.




If that's what she said in the Sun trial, why would Heard's team call her again?
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 5/15/22 at 1:58 pm to
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If that's what she said in the Sun trial, why would Heard's team call her again?
It shows he has a temper. It’s all they have. Again, they just need the jury to believe there’s a chance he was physically violent ONCE..
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 5/15/22 at 2:06 pm to
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It shows he has a temper. It’s all they have. Again, they just need the jury to believe there’s a chance he was physically violent ONCE..




True. He apparently controlled the physical part with Barkin, but not with Heard if you believe Heard.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 5/15/22 at 2:12 pm to
People need to understand, there are two trials going on here. The most important one that matters to Depp is the one of public opinion. Nobody in the public gives a shite if he has a temper. They just care if he’s physically violent.

Heard’s team is not concerned with Depp’s public perception. They are trying to save their client from being financially liable for 50 million dollars. They would love to try and save Heard’s public reputation as much as possible, but first and foremost, they want to save her from financial liability in a civil court case.
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37856 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 2:27 pm to
Well their client is convincing no one so they’ve got to get someone up there to make him look bad. Barkin did also say that he was a yeller and verbally abusive, but according to her he never touched her.

According to Depp they had a sexual relationship while making a movie. She wanted a “proper relationship” and he didn’t and he broke it off. He said she’s been mad ever since. The fact that she’s coming to testify that he threw a bottle against a wall 25 years ago let’s me know she ain’t letting go.

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Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 5/15/22 at 2:39 pm to
AS I understand it, she has sued him as well. Does this trial / outcome have anything to do with hers? Or will that be a different trial?
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38455 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 2:42 pm to
I have not heard (no pun intended) this.

Do you know what she is suing him for?
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37856 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 3:05 pm to
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AS I understand it, she has sued him as well.


If she did, google has no recollection of it.

And there’s 20+ articles about her testifying in this case. None of em mention her ever suing him.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38455 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 3:11 pm to
The only thing I can think of is he means Heard is suing Depp.

Yes she is. It’s also a defamation suit. It’s a counter suit. The burden of proof for her is the same as Depp’s. If the jury believes she was physically violent with Depp at least once, her suit is dead. Depp has already had witnesses saying she was on more than one occasion. So I would say her suit is already over. And yes it will be decided in this trial.

Depp has multiple witnesses saying she was physical and Heard has none saying he was physical. Literally none at this point who ever saw him physical. Amazing.
This post was edited on 5/15/22 at 3:14 pm
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/15/22 at 3:31 pm to
Ahh I gotcha. Yeah Heard is countersuing him.
Posted by lachellie
LALA Land
Member since Aug 2012
1127 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:37 am to
Y’all missing it, AH just testified the dog shite the bed because the dog ate some weed when it was a puppy and that made the dog incontinent. On break now, hoping they get to cross examination today.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147309 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:49 am to
can Johnny's team come back and say "new info... Disney just officially recast the role of Capt. Jack Sparrow away from our client... no more 'maybe' about how this situation/case cost him 1 of his most important roles in his career"
Posted by Corso
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2020
12347 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:27 am to
What the frick has Heard's lawyer ever asked questions in court before? She can't not ask a hearsay question

Btw anybody see this? Is she going to set herself on fire too?

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Amber Heard's new PR guru hired to paint Johnny Depp as an alcohol-bingeing abuser has two DUI arrests, left two jobs after sexual harassment claims and is known as 'the walking #MeToo case' in industry circles



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Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147309 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:40 am to
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Y’all missing it, AH just testified the dog shite the bed because the dog ate some weed when it was a puppy and that made the dog incontinent. On break now, hoping they get to cross examination today.

Nick Rekieta seems to think the defense will try to hold onto Amber all day today... so I wouldn't expect cross starting today... tomorrow at the earliest
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147309 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:42 am to
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Ahh I gotcha. Yeah Heard is countersuing him.

after he sued her for $50MM... she immediately issued the countersuit for $100MM... the rationale being 'if he's going to sue me... I'll sue him for double that'
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