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re: The craziest/best poker call I've ever seen (270k pot)
Posted on 10/1/22 at 11:46 am to Open Your Eyes
Posted on 10/1/22 at 11:46 am to Open Your Eyes
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You dont even understand how these 2 statements are in direct conflict with each other.
They're not.
Nobody argues that even a perfect poker player will win every hand.
Not understanding that is not understanding basic math and stats.
HU Limit poker is 100% solved. Doesn't mean if you play perfectly you will win every hand. Over a large enough sample, you will not be beaten, though.
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Posted on 10/1/22 at 11:46 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:and both can amazingly lose on any hand but should maximize profit over time. I can't understand why this is so difficult for some people to grasp
There are 2 ways to make money in poker. Making your opponent fold their equity is one of those 2 ways.
Realizing your own equity is the other, which he had the option b/c pushing on a draw is only a semi-bluff.
Posted on 10/1/22 at 11:46 am to DeathValley85
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Any game where there are professionals consistently winning
I mean
This isnt true
The best players you can name lose hundreds of thousands of dollars at a time
Highlight reels mean nothing
They dont consistently win
None of them win enough to be notable without sponsored betting deals
Posted on 10/1/22 at 11:46 am to Open Your Eyes
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Another thing you failed at.
I agree, you can’t explain a complex concept to a small brain person.
Posted on 10/1/22 at 11:47 am to lance814
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Because running that spot multiple times will result in 10%
How are you getting 10% here? Garrett never lead the hand and his equity peaked at 70% post flop.
Posted on 10/1/22 at 11:47 am to UncleFestersLegs
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and both can amazingly lose on any hand
Sure. But the discussion isn't about his push.
It's about her call.
Posted on 10/1/22 at 11:48 am to UGATiger26
Game of chance and chance happens and douche says she cheated.
Posted on 10/1/22 at 11:48 am to GRTiger
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Garrett never lead the hand
His range did
Posted on 10/1/22 at 11:48 am to SlowFlowPro
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Sure, but play within the hand shouldn't be based on that hand alone.
And yet it absolutely can be and there is nothing in the rules that says otherwise.
Posted on 10/1/22 at 11:49 am to Meauxjeaux
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Game of chance and chance happens and douche says she cheated.
Her decision was insane and Garrett can be emotional and a douche. I don't know if she cheated but she certainly made an incredibly dumb decision.
Posted on 10/1/22 at 11:50 am to SlowFlowPro
Yea, but that doesn't refute the statement you quoted, nor does it show work on the 10% part I am questioning.
Posted on 10/1/22 at 11:50 am to Meauxjeaux
A couple facts to clear some things up:
The OT has clearly never played much poker.
Robbi is bankrolled by her BF who was also at that table playing.
6mo ago all of her poker play was done online in the buy in range of $100-$500.
After this hand, she did an interview and was stuttering and stumbling for a reason she made that call.
Innocent people don’t give money back at a casino. EVER. Especially when your bankrolling BF is playing in the same game. She wasn’t intimidated. She was scared shitless a huge investigation was about to be launched and she gave back the money to squash the whole issue
The OT has clearly never played much poker.
Robbi is bankrolled by her BF who was also at that table playing.
6mo ago all of her poker play was done online in the buy in range of $100-$500.
After this hand, she did an interview and was stuttering and stumbling for a reason she made that call.
Innocent people don’t give money back at a casino. EVER. Especially when your bankrolling BF is playing in the same game. She wasn’t intimidated. She was scared shitless a huge investigation was about to be launched and she gave back the money to squash the whole issue
Posted on 10/1/22 at 11:50 am to MileHighDraw
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6mo ago all of her poker play was done online in the buy in range of $100-$500.
That explains a lot
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After this hand, she did an interview and was stuttering and stumbling for a reason she made that call
Based on everything else this is all about image for her and not making a living. I don’t find it hard to believe she was freaking out because everyone thought she made such a bad call that she looked like and idiot.
Again…if she was cheating why did she call with almost zero chance of winning?
Him going all in on a draw against a player that had pushed back at every bet looks more like cheating that what she did.
This post was edited on 10/1/22 at 11:52 am
Posted on 10/1/22 at 11:51 am to Open Your Eyes
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And yet it absolutely can be
Sure, and it was so bad it was borderline insane.
His bluff range crushes J-high
Posted on 10/1/22 at 11:51 am to SquatchDawg
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Him going all in on a draw against a player that had pushed back at every bet looks more like cheating that what she did.
Wait what? This makes no sense.
Posted on 10/1/22 at 11:52 am to SquatchDawg
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What about his play? He raises and she calls….representing something. He bets and she reraises…representing something. He then puts her all in on a draw hand. He had a ton of outs but why risk $100k when $20k gets you another card. That move screamed “I just want you to go away”.
Yes, but he had tons of outs if she called.
If she knew he was bluffing, but didn’t know what he had, why would someone call unless the loss didn’t matter?
I think she may have been a bad cheater, or she didn’t care about the money.
Posted on 10/1/22 at 11:52 am to Caraway Rye
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I mean This isnt true The best players you can name lose hundreds of thousands of dollars at a time Highlight reels mean nothing They dont consistently win None of them win enough to be notable without sponsored betting deals
Almost everything you said isn’t true
There were career poker players well before it boomed in popularity and those players were able to get sponsors.
I’ll agree the definition of consistent is subjective here, but in general they’ll win more than they lose. Variance is a bitch though and I’m sure things are much easier for them now with those sponsorship dollars.
Posted on 10/1/22 at 11:55 am to MileHighDraw
quote:she should read the OT. Several experts here think it was the right call
After this hand, she did an interview and was stuttering and stumbling for a reason she made that call.
Posted on 10/1/22 at 11:56 am to EarlyCuyler3
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I've never said she cheated. You don't know anything
And I never said that you said she cheated. You can try to distill this down to semantics but you’ll just keep losing there too.
This post was edited on 10/1/22 at 11:57 am
Posted on 10/1/22 at 11:56 am to SlowFlowPro
One point negreanu made for the “not cheating” crowd was that she may have thought “ he’s bluffing” but still not studied enough to think that although he is bluffing, his bluffing range still crushes her exact hand. Seems far fetched, but that’s a possibility
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