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re: The Crack Epidemic vs The Opioid Epidemic
Posted on 6/16/19 at 1:03 am to Got Blaze
Posted on 6/16/19 at 1:03 am to Got Blaze
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The Feds/DEA didn't start cracking down until 2005 after realizing they had an epidemic on their hands.
Timelines seems dead on from what I remembered. Pretty much always had a script open from 98 until about 2004. Luckily never got in a situation where I felt I really needed it to make the day.
Sometime after Katrina I needed some help again and was put on Tramadol. Love it, seems like a lot less side effects for myself. Still not convinced that it won't have some long term blowback on it. Luckily, I haven't had any issues in the last 12-18 months.
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Posted on 6/16/19 at 3:20 am to fightin tigers
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Tramadol
Tramadol is treated like Roxies now.
It's ridiculous.
That is the one drug I think chronic pain ppl should be taken, but it's rarely given out since it's schedule changed. You used to be able to buy unlimited supply online up until what, 2012?
Posted on 6/16/19 at 3:27 am to LSU Coyote
Tramadol is dangerous as well in another way. It lowers the seizure threshold. So when you run out now you are at risk of seizing and dying. Yay!
And it is habit forming as well FWIW.
And it is habit forming as well FWIW.
This post was edited on 6/16/19 at 3:28 am
Posted on 6/16/19 at 4:04 am to RogerTheShrubber
Can someone explain me the Milton Friedman quote a little?
I think the war on drugs has been a disaster on every level
I think the war on drugs has been a disaster on every level
Posted on 6/16/19 at 4:08 am to Hiyoka
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Can someone explain me the Milton Friedman quote a little?
Government says drugs are illegal. This creates a black market due to supply and demand. Now the government's rules are in fact protecting the cartels from competition.
This is why prohibition is stupid on multiple levels and why it never, ever has worked once in human history.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 4:36 am to RogerTheShrubber
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The big issue with the crack epidemic was the incredible wave of violence That spread across the country with gangs and their preferred distribution model. The opioid epidimic s nothing like that at all
Very true.The effects of Crack on communities were out there for people to see.Lots of crime directly related to Crack.
If you went thru the other side of the tracks,there were people running around on the streets selling Crack.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 5:00 am to OweO
I was a pharmacist from 98-03. Vicodin and Soma were the big sellers early on. Started seeing a big surge in Oxy scripts by crackheads around 02-03. From what I recall, one guy told me that Oxy was selling for $1 per mg at the time.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 6:35 am to TigersHuskers
quote::You may? Well son, there is the problem. It all starts with you RECOGNIZING that you DO have a problem. Just saying.
And this is from me where I know that I may have a problem with alcohol.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 6:48 am to GeauxtigersMs36
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know crack has hit suburban white kids as well as intercity blacks
People don’t do cocaine these days unless that’s all they can find.
Black folks are also widely into meth now.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 6:54 am to Mr Clean
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Black folks are also widely into meth now.
And opiates.
One of the interesting things of addiction is that it strips away the layers of false divides and racism that we people are so good at constructing. When you need a fix you dont give a shite what color, religion, or stance on abortion the person has.
Recovery can be like that too, though we tend to set a lot of the divides back up again.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 6:57 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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I wonder why it’s so different.
Doctors and pharmaceutical companies can be sued and have deep pockets, crack dealers not so much.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 7:28 am to CarrolltonTiger
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pharmaceutical companies
You can't sue a cartel who works with the government. They're partners.
Pharma knowingly lied and misled about the risks of their products, which opened themselves up to it. They are 100% at fault for what they've faced. And so far they've gotten off extremely light.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 7:39 am to TigersHuskers
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I tried meth once years ago (did a hot rail) and it was a great rush forgot about all my problems in life. id never do it again though because I know id become addicted to it.
Trashy, explains a lot of your posts druggie
Posted on 6/16/19 at 8:04 am to TigersHuskers
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a-holes like him have no idea what addiction does to people and how it starts.
My mom ate pills from when I was 7 years old onward.
It destroyed our relationship.
I agree with him.
You want to fix the drug epidemic? Free fentanyl but to get it you have to sign an agreement saying you wont be revived.
The problem will work itself out.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 8:07 am to OweO
So you’re saying when HW Bush was in the coca plant part of the world, the US had a crack epidemic and when W Bush was in the poppy part of the world we had an opiate epidemic?
Hmmmmm
Hmmmmm
Posted on 6/16/19 at 8:12 am to TigersHuskers
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$30 for a gram
Yep. In like 2010 it would have been $100. Meth is the cheapest drug around.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 8:16 am to Paul Allen
quote:m
Late 90’s? More like 2010-2012
Look up dr. Jacqueline Cleggett from New Orleans. Opioids became a problem in the late 90s early 2000s. And she was one of the main reasons New Orleans, St. Bernard especially, was one of the hardest hit areas in the country. St. Bernard was actually mentioned by name in a few NYT articles about the epidemic.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 8:16 am to TigersHuskers
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not to bring race into the debate, but when its inner city blacks hooked on crack and killing each other no one cares and would rather just lock them up, but when its well to do suburban whites from the northeast getting hooked on pills then heroin its someone elses fault.
I mean... you kinda have to. If this were still blacks, even suburban blacks, it would never see the consistent press it’s currently getting. I mean. People still don’t give a frick about black men with minor drug charges.
Anyway. From an optics PoV, the Opioid epidemic is worse because we’ve allowed. Encouraged it even with prescriptions. Imagine taking all the insane money opioid companies make and channeling that into funding research for the causes of chronic pain and how to safely block the NTs in the brain from causing it.
All comes down to Tx > cures. $$$
Posted on 6/16/19 at 8:17 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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People blame doctors for the opioid epidemic. No one gave crack heads any sympathy.
I wonder why it’s so different.
Were doctors prescribing crack to people?
Posted on 6/16/19 at 8:18 am to Mr Clean
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People don’t do cocaine these days unless that’s all they can find.
Lol wut? How old are you? Go into just about any bar these days.
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