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re: The Concept of a Planned Death
Posted on 5/17/22 at 11:50 am to AtlanticTigerMan
Posted on 5/17/22 at 11:50 am to AtlanticTigerMan
I don't plan to ever retire, I'll work as long as the good Lord allows it and I'll enjoy my time on this Earth in the same manner.
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 11:51 am to AtlanticTigerMan
I was watching some Youtube documentary that profiled how people and their families coped and reacted to news that they were going to die soon. Kind of interesting in a morbid, voyeuristic way.
Anyway one old dude decided he didn't want to fight his terminal cancer anymore so one of his kids set up an adjustable bed and a morphine drip on his sun room porch and the old dude just laid there and watched his grandkids play in the backyard all day and run in and out of the house. I thought, that's the way to go out.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 11:51 am to blueridgeTiger
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I'm now 80
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fricking beautiful women
Posted on 5/17/22 at 11:51 am to blueridgeTiger
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Lighten up. I retired at age 60 in 2002 - I'm now 80 enjoying the heck out of what life has to offer (single malt scotch, cuban cigars and fricking beautiful women). I plan to continue on this course for many years.
I'm glad to hear that but you also need to understand that's not everyone's experience.
I've always been someone who believes quality of life is more important than quantity of life. I'd rather live 50 really great years than 100 mediocre years.
Take me for example. I'm 38 and I already have several medical conditions (two hereditary). I know it's not going to get better for me. But I'll be damned if I work until I'm broken down medically and then can't do the activities I want to do.
But the point is there's no options for people who support this.
At the end of the day let me ask you this. Why should people not have the ability to have a planned death? A death where they take a pill or injection that will simply put them to sleep. A painless death with dignity, surrounded by family and friends in your final moments. Is that really too much to ask? I think it's something that is compassionate and something everyone should have the ability to choose.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 11:52 am to AUFANATL
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I was watching some Youtube documentary that profiled how people and their families coped and reacted to news that they were going to die soon. Kind of interesting in a morbid, voyeuristic way.
Anyway one old dude decided he didn't want to fight his terminal cancer anymore so one of his kids set up an adjustable bed and a morphine drip on his sun room porch and the old dude just laid there and watched his grandkids play in the backyard all day and run in and out of the house. I thought, that's the way to go out.
Completely agree. I think that would be an amazing way to go out. And yet why should it take a terminal illness for that to be an option? Why should that type of morphine drip not be available to everyone who chooses it? That's what I'm arguing.
This post was edited on 5/17/22 at 11:55 am
Posted on 5/17/22 at 11:55 am to AtlanticTigerMan
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But the point is there's no options for people who support this.
Take a bunch of pills and die in your sleep.
This thread makes me depressed for you dude.
Get laid, find a woman, find some purpose in your life.
Go traveling to the mountains, to the ocean. Island hopping.
I think your problem is you are in a little hole where you think the world owes you something, but the world doesn’t give a shite.
You make your own way. Quit this stinkin thinkin and get to living and loving. You’ll be dead before you know it
Posted on 5/17/22 at 11:56 am to AtlanticTigerMan
And BTW - FFS - DO NOT go to those suicide websites - those are some some really sick fricks - go talk to someone that actually wants to help you. You sound like you're in a bad place - don't listen to those people on those sites. They are messed up.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 11:56 am to AtlanticTigerMan
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And yet that's exactly how our system is set up. Work away during your younger years and then retire when you're too old to really enjoy life.
Yeah, screw that. I’ll be retiring at 58. (55 now), and unless something catastrophic happens, I’ll still be able to enjoy life. I have some agreement with the OP when you reach a point that you are a burden to your family physically and/or financially. I don’t want to go on like that if I live to get to that point.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 11:56 am to AtlanticTigerMan
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I know we've talked about it before on this board. Would you want to live forever? Most of us even admit we wouldn't as life would get boring. As an older millennial (38) I'm screwed in terms of retirement. Most millennials, Gen Z's and even some of Gen X will never get to retire in the way Baby Boomers are able to retire.
Pussy
Posted on 5/17/22 at 11:57 am to AtlanticTigerMan
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I've always been someone who believes quality of life is more important than quantity of life.
It doesn't have to be one or the other. I'll be 50 soon and I've been doing what I want (to an extent) my entire adult life. I pretty much hunt, fish, drink, etc. whenever I want. Don't make a ton of money, but have a great time with what I have.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 11:58 am to AtlanticTigerMan
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AtlanticTigerMan
Posted on 5/17/22 at 11:59 am to fr33manator
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Take a bunch of pills and die in your sleep.
This thread makes me depressed for you dude.
Get laid, find a woman, find some purpose in your life.
Go traveling to the mountains, to the ocean. Island hopping.
I think your problem is you are in a little hole where you think the world owes you something, but the world doesn’t give a shite.
You make your own way. Quit this stinkin thinkin and get to living and loving. You’ll be dead before you know it
I never said the world owed me anything. This isn't even that much about me. But let me ask again, why is giving people the option to conclude their life on their own terms a bad thing? Why would a planned death be a bad thing? We try to plan most important aspects of our life but yet the 2nd most important thing that will ever happen to us (after birth) we leave up to pure chance?
If you take a bunch of pills and die in your sleep that will still probably be a painful death. Never mind you would die alone without family and friends being around to help you through the process. Is it that wrong that some people might prefer to plan their death so that it happens on their terms and with dignity?
This post was edited on 5/17/22 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:01 pm to AtlanticTigerMan
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I never said the world owed me anything. This isn't even that much about me. But let me ask again, why is giving people the option to conclude their life on their own terms a bad thing? Why would a planned death be a bad thing? We try to plan most important aspects of our life but yet the 2nd most important thing that will ever happen to us (after birth) we leave up to pure chance?
If you take a bunch of pills and die in your sleep that will still probably be a painful death. Never mind you would die alone with family and friends being around to help you through the process. Is that dignity? Should people not have the right to die with dignity?
Read a couple books on stoicism and quit being a giant vag
Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:02 pm to AtlanticTigerMan
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AtlanticTigerMan
If you are not just trolling, I suggest you leave this forum
Contact these folks ASAP
Suicide Hotline
Seriously.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:03 pm to MrSpock
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I know we've talked about it before on this board. Would you want to live forever?
I'm not going to live forever - but I'm sure as frick gonna live as long and well as I can - and enjoy it as much as possible. Nobody has a perfect life - but nobody is snatching mine away from me without a serious fight - I can't believe this is even a topic of conversation.
BTW- and I'm only saying this because I've seen the impact that this kind of thinking has had on my family - but talk to someone. I'm not going into details, but please get some help.
This post was edited on 5/17/22 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:04 pm to High C
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I have some agreement with the OP when you reach a point that you are a burden to your family physically and/or financially. I don’t want to go on like that if I live to get to that point.
This is me. I don't mind if I have to work til I die, but I don't want to end up being a burden to anyone if something happens where I couldn't work and medical bills where piling up.
This post was edited on 5/17/22 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:07 pm to LSUWoodworker
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If you are not just trolling, I suggest you leave this forum
Contact these folks ASAP
Suicide Hotline
Seriously.
I'll admit I'm tired of life but this isn't about suicide. It's about having control of your life.
Is it really that wrong for people to say "hey I'm 50 now but I don't want to live past 70" and then start to make a plan for it? And the thing is you can change your mind, you aren't locked in. I just think that people should be given the opportunity to conclude this life on their own terms. I know many here would say that's playing God but if it doesn't affect anyone else why is it something we fight so badly?
Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:07 pm to AtlanticTigerMan
Op should definitely start planning
Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:09 pm to AtlanticTigerMan
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if it doesn't affect anyone else
But you have no way of knowing that
Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:10 pm to AtlanticTigerMan
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why is giving people the option to conclude their life on their own terms a bad thing?
We all have that option. What you seem to want is to have it validated and someone cheering you on. And I’m certainly not going to do that. Because there were times in my life that I thought, in the moment, I wanted out. And if I had people pimping It as a viable option, who knows?
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