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re: The circle of COVID. Unvaccinated better equipped to defeat looming Lamda variant

Posted on 8/4/21 at 10:13 am to
Posted by Billder
Where you live
Member since Nov 2009
5237 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 10:13 am to
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And yet China is virus free with no reported deaths even from the delta variant.


Over a hundred up votes for a post that couldn't be further from the truth. This is the epitome of what's been going on in this pandemic and misinformation. Do your research people. Not just want you want to hear. Too many dumb people repeating dumb things that aren't true.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
75023 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 10:15 am to
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The poli board loves talking about pop control using all of these sinister plots. The solution is much easier. End foreign aid and immigration. You'd starve to death billions in a decade.
Socially unacceptable.

Why even attempt to risk the social and political fallout from such an act when you could essentially “invisibly” prevent the birth of millions?

That doesn’t even touch on the political support those populations offer the elites as well.
This post was edited on 8/4/21 at 10:16 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
451588 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 10:16 am to
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The type of individuals who push for this (Bill Gates, Bezos, Zuckerburg, Clinton’s, etc.) are so absolutely separate from the rest of humanity that it would likely have very little impact on their lives.

They still rely on electricity, plastics, fuel, etc.

Posted by LSU Delirium
Member since Aug 2013
478 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 10:18 am to
Everything I see is 4000 deaths, essentially nothing in country of that size.

Misinformation is definitely a huge problem, along with lack of research by people, but vague posts like this with zero data or information are almost as bad.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
75023 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 10:19 am to
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They still rely on electricity, plastics, fuel, etc.
Again, you are expecting a Mad Max collapse rather than a mere reduction in population replenishment, something that is countered by immigration of menial labor workers.

This would actually be extremely easy to pull off.

Reduce population replenishment of intellectuals and replace with menial labor workers.

Rinse and repeat.

We come into contact with a multitude of chemicals, medicines, etc., every day that we don’t even question before we ingest. It would be impossible to do so.

On top of that, there are databases which allow people to know exactly where certain barcodes and supplies are shipped and sold.

The control of the situation is easy at this point.
This post was edited on 8/4/21 at 10:26 am
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
14620 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 10:26 am to
im not getting the vaccine until a vaccine for the ligma variant comes out
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
31191 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 11:36 am to
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Researchers found those recovering from COVID (while remaining unvaxed) have immune system antibodies that evolved, becoming more potent and better able to resist new variants

I just read the article. You added the bold part yourself.

I simplified it for those on here that I figured wouldnt comprehend what they read. Congrats on outing yourself, I guess. Here is the exact quote:
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They note that in COVID-19 survivors, the immune system's antibodies evolve during the first year, becoming more potent and better able to resist new variants.

Now tell me where it said they might have been vaccinated, over the course of that 1st year? And if you believe some were vaxed, tell me how the researchers were able to conclude that the unvaxed had antibodies that evolved to fight other variants, but those with just an mRNA vaccine didnt. They cant come to that conclusion if test subjects had both antibodies in their system, can they? Because they clearly stated that the comparative group NEVER had COVID, only the mRNA antibodies
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In 32 volunteers who never had COVID-19, they found that antibodies induced by mRNA vaccines did evolve between the first and second shots. But five months later, vaccine-induced antibodies were "equivalent" to those seen after the second dose, with "little measurable improvement" in the antibodies' ability to neutralize a broad variety of new variants
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
31191 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 11:43 am to
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Not sure how the OP came up with any of his summary

Well, perhaps if you had actually linked the Rockefeller University study, then you would know, wouldnt you?
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Rockefeller University researchers

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coauthor Michel Nussenzweig.

Cuz I dont see any of the above on your link. Your link only discusses the mutations of the Lamda variant
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27406 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 11:46 am to
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Never, ever trust the CCP.


Exactly. No deaths but a few random fires burning in piles in far away swathes of land.
Posted by lachellie
LALA Land
Member since Aug 2012
1109 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 11:51 am to
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*One also has to wonder why Beijing hasn’t been turned into a sheet of glass yet?


FIFY
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
69724 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 11:51 am to
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but vague posts like this with zero data or information are almost as bad.



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Everything I see is 4000 deaths, essentially nothing in country of that size.

Misinformation is definitely a huge problem, along with lack of research by people, but vague posts like this with zero data or information are almost as bad.


Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
31191 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 11:52 am to
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Misleading. Need to say those who have had Covid better equipped.

Vaccination status is irrelevant.

Considering that those with unvaxed antibodies are fighting off variants better, it stands to reason that those that catch a variant will do the same. Plus, many never got tested, so its difficult to assert that they are both unvaxed and without antibodies

The core point is once vaxed you have limited protections going forward. Unvaxed can fight off the variants better, if you survive. Which 99% do
Posted by TexasTiger90
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Jul 2014
3576 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 11:55 am to
3, 1, 2, 4
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25963 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 12:01 pm to
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I love how the PT calls the vaccines an “IQ test”


Interesting conclusion considering what we know about the demographics of those that have decided not to get any type or Covid vaccination.

Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
36460 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 12:03 pm to
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The core point is once vaxed you have limited protections going forward. Unvaxed can fight off the variants better, if you survive. Which 99% do



People don't want to hear that. It makes people admit we aren't all equal.

Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
36460 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 12:05 pm to
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nteresting conclusion considering what we know about the demographics of those that have decided not to get any type or Covid vaccination.



What do we know about those demographics?
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
31191 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 12:16 pm to
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Interesting conclusion considering what we know about the demographics of those that have decided not to get any type or Covid vaccination.

Really? i keep reading that the demographic that is the most anti-vaccine is within those that hold a PhD
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In terms of education levels, people with a high school education or less had the largest decrease in vaccine hesitancy during the study period, while hesitancy held constant among those with a PhD, which was the most hesitant group.

Sounds like those with less than a HS diploma are becoming the most willing to vaccinate


Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41861 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 12:20 pm to
yup the midwits are the ones most vaccinated

so both high IQs and low IQs are antivaccine. midIQs/normies are easily influenced
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
31191 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 6:05 pm to
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so both high IQs and low IQs are antivaccine. midIQs/normies are easily influenced

It got awfully quiet in here once that study was posted about the smartest among us being least likely to be vaccinated, and those with a high school level education are now the most likely
Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
5677 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 6:10 pm to
Or more likely this is just side effects from the vaccine. ADE.
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