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re: The busiest port in America is no longer on the West Coast

Posted on 12/9/22 at 11:25 am to
Posted by LSU fan 246
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Posted on 12/9/22 at 11:25 am to
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Have they started dredging the Mississippi to accommodate the new size shipping containers ships? I


The problem are bridges, not depth.
Posted by Swagga
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Posted on 12/9/22 at 11:25 am to
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theres a race in Louisiana to get some of this share too. Port of Plaquemines and Port of New Orleans are in a race right now.



It doesn’t particularly matter to me which one wins the race, as long as Louisiana is getting some of this work. There’s plenty to go around for both ports.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 12/9/22 at 11:27 am to
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theres a race in Louisiana to get some of this share too. Port of Plaquemines and Port of New Orleans are in a race right now.





As was explained to me, handling container cargo requires a lot of space, which Louisiana ports lack, and not much room to expand.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 12/9/22 at 11:27 am to
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Louisiana should be a major shipping hub but instead we’re fricking retarded


The port of South LA is the busiest port in the country. That's not including Nola and baton rouge. Which by themselves are in the top 10.

No idea how you think LA isn't a major shipping hub
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/9/22 at 11:30 am to
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As was explained to me, handling container cargo requires a lot of space, which Louisiana ports lack, and not much room to expand.



Have you been to Venice lately? It's a ghost town....the docks are all bare and empty....it would take a lot of money to set up offloading and loading cranes but the land is there but also is the chance of getting slammed by a hurricane
This post was edited on 12/9/22 at 11:30 am
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 11:33 am to
The move years ago would have been to completely make a new huey p long bridge and raise it. Then you turn Avondale into another container terminal. The rail is already there. A big blunder that will cost billions in unmade revenue
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/9/22 at 11:36 am to
When freight is picked up by trucks running on diesel and you decide to frick over the trucking industry by working to regulate them out of existence, this is what happens.

LINK

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Working toward the 2040 ban on new diesel and gas trucks, the proposal has other deadlines for phasing in new sales, varying based on the type of truck.

Drayage trucks — used largely to transport cargo from ports and railways — would have the strictest timeline. New models would be zero-emission in 2024, while diesel and gas drayage trucks must retire after 18 years to guarantee that they meet a zero-emission requirement by 2035.

In addition, half of all new trucks purchased by state and local governments would be zero-emission in 2024, increasing to 100% by 2027. Some exemptions are allowed, if there is a lack of available models. Counties with small populations, including Inyo, Butte, Mendocino and Tuolumne, would be exempt until 2027.
Posted by Swagga
504
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 12/9/22 at 11:38 am to
How much higher does the Huey P need to go? I know Avondale is setting up as the global gateway, it seems like they would be able to accommodate most cargo ships.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/9/22 at 11:40 am to
Posted by AlumneyeJ93
Member since Apr 2022
661 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 11:44 am to
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quote:
Have they started dredging the Mississippi to accommodate the new size shipping containers ships?


IDK. What is the requirement? 70 feet?
The Charleston Harbor Deepening Project is on track to achieve a 52-foot depth in 2022 — yielding the deepest harbor on the East Coast — up from the current 45-foot depth. The entrance channel is also being deepened to 54 feet, up from 47 feet.

The 52-foot depth enables mega container ships to call on the Port of Charleston any time, any tide. The Charleston Harbor Deepening Project is crucial to SC Ports remaining globally competitive as record cargo volumes and bigger ships continue to flow through the Port of Charleston.
This post was edited on 12/9/22 at 11:45 am
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 11:45 am to
20 feet.

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it seems like they would be able to accommodate most cargo ships.



They can. Not container ships though
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
37422 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 11:48 am to
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Have they started dredging the Mississippi to accommodate the new size shipping containers ships? I know New York had to raise a bridge and have been preparing.
Not so fast my friend. Studies. We need to do studies first. Lots of them so that it'll delay any progress for 40 years. - Louisiana government.
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
37422 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 11:51 am to
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Louisiana should be a major shipping hub but instead we’re fricking retarded
quote:

by Richard Grayson
This guy gets it.

Well said.
Posted by Captain Crackysack
Member since Oct 2017
2231 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 11:53 am to
Busiest port and busiest container port are two different things. The ports between Baton Rouge and the mouth of the river are and probably always will be the busiest ports in the country
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 11:56 am to
If you're going strictly by tonnage, Louisiana is top 2 or 3 in the country
Posted by reggierayreb
Germantown
Member since Nov 2012
17003 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 11:58 am to
Hello State of California.
I work in this industry and I know what I’m talking about. I’ll now teach you a lesson I learned in Economics class my senior year of high school. Over-regulation hurts business in a free enterprise system. Pull back on the regulations and you will see your import volumes increase which will also cause your export volumes to increase as well.

Signed,
Good Common Sense
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20203 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 11:59 am to
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The problem are bridges, not depth.


The first bridge is the Crescent City Connection in downtown New Orleans.

How high is that one?
Posted by Auburn80
Backwater, TN
Member since Nov 2017
7668 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 12:01 pm to
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the new size shipping containers ships?


Do they fit thru the Panama Canal or avoid it completely?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 12:05 pm to
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Do they fit thru the Panama Canal or avoid it completely?



yeah they just spent over $5b to widen it
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
7551 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 12:05 pm to
Texas should build a deepwater port around Victoria and implement a ski lift style design to bring the containers well onshore to a railyard. Maybe the same for Mississippi or Alabama.

They have plenty of non marsh real estate closer to the coast than Louisiana.
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