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re: The Battle of Shiloh began on this date 161 years ago...
Posted on 4/6/23 at 10:19 am to CleverUserName
Posted on 4/6/23 at 10:19 am to CleverUserName
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if the orders to March to Shiloh hadn’t been delayed and they made the March orderly to actually make it to Shiloh on that Thursday morning instead of Saturday. And if they actually began the attack from the southeast instead of the Southwest… that could have been bad for the Union. Real bad. They wouldn’t have lost that time skirmishing with Peabody’s brigade in the early morning instead of rolling nearly to the peach orchard before they met much resistance.
Early war battle. The biggest mistake of the CSA was the corps deployment in successive lines rather than in corps sectors. Corps level command and control was lost quickly.
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Posted on 4/6/23 at 10:19 am to Tigers2010a
Which is the best battlefield to visit? Shiloh or Chickamauga?
Posted on 4/6/23 at 10:57 am to Tigers2010a
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Early war battle. The biggest mistake of the CSA was the corps deployment in successive lines rather than in corps sectors. Corps level command and control was lost quickly.
Johnston actually wanted it in corps sectors.
However he told Beauregard the plan to write it up and Beauregard went away from sectors back to successive lines.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 11:01 am to Tigers2010a
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Which is the best battlefield to visit? Shiloh or Chickamauga?
Never been to Chickamauga, but Shiloh is beautifully well preserved. The federal battlefield cemetery at Pittsburg landing is also said to be one of the best in the country.
Shiloh also was more consequential… and was the battle where everyone concluded the war was going to be way worse than anyone imagined.
Chickamauga is seriously underrated as a battle though. Its toll was worse than Shiloh.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 11:07 am to CleverUserName
Shiloh is flat out beautiful with the vista near the welcome center overlooking the bend in the Tennessee River.
It’s also the closest I’ve ever come to feeling like I was at a haunted place when I was walking the trails on the south side of that battlefield in the tangled woods near dusk.
It’s also the closest I’ve ever come to feeling like I was at a haunted place when I was walking the trails on the south side of that battlefield in the tangled woods near dusk.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 11:16 am to CleverUserName
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Chickamauga is seriously underrated as a battle though. Its toll was worse than Shiloh.
Chickamauga was as nasty as it got in the west IMO.
An absolute blood letting in a N GA jungle.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 11:36 am to tide06
Cozzens book on Chickamauga is superb. Definitely would like to visit if the park is in good shape.
This post was edited on 4/6/23 at 11:38 am
Posted on 4/6/23 at 11:43 am to Tigers2010a
Chickamauga is well-preserved. I’m fairly certain NPS owns all the land on which the battle was fought. And for a battlefield that saw over 100,000 men fight and 34,000 casualties fall, it’s surprisingly small in area.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 11:44 am to GoAwayImBaitn
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you're going to say they were fighting to abolish slavery I'll sit here and listen to you explain to us all why it is that Grant and many high ups in the Union kept slaves during the war. While you're at it, tell us why the Union refused to free slaves in areas under Union control when Abe made his "Emancipation Proclamation" ETA - Grant freed his slave before the war and was the last president to own a slave. He was NOT an abolitionist by his own words
Who cares what an individual (Grant) personal beliefs are???…
Posted on 4/6/23 at 12:39 pm to OldNo.7
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Posted on 4/6/23 at 1:05 pm to Robin Masters
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any girl named Shiloh is going to be a 9 and a freak in the sack.
Neil Diamond wrote a song about her.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 1:07 pm to Hogwarts
Real beginning of Sherman and US Grants
Hot streak
Hot streak
Posted on 4/6/23 at 1:11 pm to RollTide1987
Yeah, I wouldn't want to be around tonight when the artillery opens up. Forecast calls for some bad rain.
Fixin' to be a rough night
Fixin' to be a rough night
Posted on 4/6/23 at 1:18 pm to tide06
I went one time at the end of February . It was a gray cold day and there were flurries in the air. It was eerily quiet. A stark beauty. It still gets me to this day. The hornets nest felt very weird.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 1:22 pm to Hogwarts
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Went to the battlefield once, visiting them puts things in perspective.
I’ve been to many civil war battle fields but I’ve yet to visit Shilo/Corinth - been on my bucket list for some time and going to try to make it this year.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 1:28 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 4/6/23 at 1:31 pm to Luke
Posted on 4/6/23 at 1:32 pm to Tigers2010a
Sherman: “Well, Grant, we’ve had the devil’s own day, haven’t we?”
Grant: “Yes. Lick ‘em tomorrow, though.”
Grant: “Yes. Lick ‘em tomorrow, though.”
Posted on 4/6/23 at 1:44 pm to Sus-Scrofa
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Sherman: “Well, Grant, we’ve had the devil’s own day, haven’t we?”
Grant: “Yes. Lick ‘em tomorrow, though.”
Still my favorite recorded exchange from the Civil War. Grant and Sherman embodied the rugged individualism Americans have idealized since colonial times.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 1:59 pm to RollTide1987
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Still my favorite recorded exchange from the Civil War. Grant and Sherman embodied the rugged individualism Americans have idealized since colonial times.
Sherman actually went to Grant expecting Grant to order a withdrawal. This exchange marked the first time in the war that the Union took a beating on the first day and the commanding general didn’t consider a retreat. If that would have been Gen. Hallick there in full command, the Union would have probably retreated at least back to Savannah if not further.
Hell… later the Union held the best ground of the war at Gettysburg. And Meade almost retreated back closer to DC.
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