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re: The average sewer fee in EBR is $49.37 per month

Posted on 2/24/18 at 6:08 pm to
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 2/24/18 at 6:08 pm to
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In Lehman's terms, I don't pay the value of my apartment in indirect property taxes.


Never listen to the Lehmans about money, they went bankrupt.
Posted by 2tigergo
Member since Jan 2013
201 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 6:15 pm to
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So the tax foundation's 7.6% rate for LA and TX and the article in the Business Report are inaccurate and we pay much higher taxes than we think?


Comparing "per capita" stats may appear to be fair at first glance, but actually paint a very distorted picture.
States like La. that have a high poverty rate, means that the working middle class have a higher tax burden relative to other states with similar "per capita" numbers.

This skewed data applies to income tax, homestead exemption, and I would argue even high sales tax.

So the numbers may be accurate, but very DANGEROUS. Tax and spend politicians love to cite these stats.

Posted by fallguy_1978
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Member since Feb 2018
48453 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 6:20 pm to
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States like La. that have a high poverty rate, means that the working middle class have a higher tax burden relative to other states with similar "per capita" numbers. 

The rates are the rates right? Some pay 0% but it's not like there are middle class people paying 20%. It's negligible imo. I've been offered jobs in TX and honestly the tax rate was a wash. It had no bearing on my decision.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 6:24 pm to
Put an in ground hoot system and you'll pay 5k and be responsible for maintenance. We put ours years ago, may be more now.
Posted by C-Bear
A Texas Tiger
Member since May 2005
809 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 6:37 pm to
Our last bill for the sewer portion was $7.38. It does vary upon water usage, so I checked past bills where we high high water usage. Those charges were never more than $18. We reside in Katy, TX.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51896 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 6:40 pm to
I pay 60 in FW for water, sewer, and garbage pickup.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51896 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 6:45 pm to
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If I were to buy the apartment I live in instead of rent it the property tax I would then pay is a lot higher than the part that is theoretically built in to my rent.


What? How can you know this?

Especially considering most complexes it would be <200 dollars. Most rental estimates online I see have the property renting for almost that much over the mortgage+escrow price
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34146 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 7:09 pm to
Live in NW Houston in the burbs of Copperfield area. Still in Houston but outside city limits. On the border of Cypress.

LSUDad lives about 20 minutes north of me. Lithium lives in the Woodlands about 45 minutes away.

It's the Houston way, or so it seems, to make long commutes. Every single one of my neighbors commute to downtown. Wife leaves at 6am to Bellaire and takes her 39 minutes which isn't too bad. But leave at 630am and it's over an hr commute.

I really like being able to choose your electric provider and not just stuck with Entergy. Over 60 different companies to choose from. Our house is only 2,450 sq ft. But electric bill was $35 last month and highest bill $145 last July.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34146 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 7:16 pm to
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Our last bill for the sewer portion was $7.38. It does vary upon water usage, so I checked past bills where we high high water usage. Those charges were never more than $18. We reside in Katy, TX.


That's pretty good. Our water and sewer is around $32 per month and HOA pays trash so not sure. In Copperfield
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 7:19 pm to
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but I'm curious as to what other cities and counties of equal size pay. Is 49 plus a month low? High?


I pay ZERO. Have a treatment plant.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Member since Feb 2018
48453 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 7:19 pm to
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Our house is only 2,450 sq ft. But electric bill was $35 last month and highest bill $145 last July.

That's not a small house and how is your bill so cheap? My bill was more than that in a 400sq ft studio apartment
This post was edited on 2/24/18 at 7:20 pm
Posted by marcus3000
The nice part of Gardere
Member since Jan 2018
846 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 7:19 pm to
There's a reason that EBR pays that much. The EPA inspected EBR's sewage system and said it needed to be upgraded, so we all pay more for that until at least 2020.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 7:20 pm to
What did you pay for the treatment plant
Posted by 2tigergo
Member since Jan 2013
201 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 7:21 pm to
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The rates are the rates right? Some pay 0% but it's not like there are middle class people paying 20%


All studies have there shortcomings because its so difficult to compare apples to apples due to individual/convoluted state tax structures, which make the "per capita" number so distorted.

The annual DC tax burden study goes a little deeper by comparing Hypothetical Family incomes in larger cities by state.

For example, when looking at the simplistic 7.6% number of TX vs LA, then comparing a $100k income family burden in 2016 yields
Houston = 6.1% New Orleans = 9.0%

and a $25k income family burden yields
Houston = 9.5% New Orleans = 11.3%

So the middle class New Orleans family tax burden is ~50% higher than Houston. That is fairly significant.
And the percent gap is also increased substantially from the $25k family (1.8%) to the $100k familty (2.9%)

2014 Poverty rate
Texas #38
LA #49

DC Study pdf


Posted by El Jefe
_______(\___ southeast of disorder
Member since Jan 2004
1223 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 7:22 pm to
Atlanta - "Currently, a family of four in Atlanta pays roughly $140 per month for water, second only to Seattle."

Shreveport - "There will be a 6 percent increase in water rates in 2020 and a 4 percent increase in 2022. Sewer rates have gone up every year and they continue for the next four years: 7 percent in 2019, 6 percent in 2020 and 2 percent in both 2021 and 2022."

I won't do the math for you, but Baton Rouge is well below any other municipality that is under a federal lawsuit (both above), and well on par with other similar-sized cities in La.





Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34146 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 7:24 pm to
Our Electric plan in Houston for this year. If you use over 1,000 kwhr you get an 85 bill credit. With smart meters can track daily usage to use 1,000kwhr. Starting in March will conserve and use a max of 2,500 kwhr in summer. We change electric providers every year though and never used the same provider twice.
This post was edited on 2/24/18 at 7:29 pm
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48453 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 7:29 pm to
Yeah but you are talking about the most heavily taxed city in LA. Nola has higher property taxes because it's run by liberals. I compared my taxes in BR vs the Houston suburbs when evaluating a job offer a few years ago (wife nixed it) and it was maybe $200-300 difference per year on 175k household income
This post was edited on 2/24/18 at 7:31 pm
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97618 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 7:31 pm to
Yeah I couldn't handle that commute, especially with an infant spending 12 hours a day at daycare.

Most of my friends have settled in the loop, they paid out the arse for their house and send kids to private school but they live 10 minutes from work
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 7:31 pm to
$1200 22 years ago. So, it's paid for.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48453 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 7:39 pm to
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Most of my friends have settled in the loop, they paid out the arse for their house and send kids to private school but they live 10 minutes from work

That's the case for most cities, particularly in the South. Inner city schools are shite so you send them to private school or move to the burbs. My sister's kids go to public in Austin but that's really the only exception I can think of. She also lives in a house worth north of 1 million so maybe it's the area in general. Lance Armstrong's kids go there too. I wouldn't put my kid in Houston or Dallas public schools.
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