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Posted on 7/22/23 at 9:57 am to Mo Jeaux
Don’t start none there won’t be none
Posted on 7/22/23 at 10:00 am to Mo Jeaux
It’s crazy that you post such stupidity with such an air of certainty. We DID NOT target civilians. We targeted the home base of the Japanese 2nd army and 2 major hubs of manufacturing(textile and steel). We were handicapping their war effort while also showing that we had weapons that were undreamt of at that time. The US literally dropped leaflets in the weeks leading up to the bombing, warning citizens to evacuate the area.
I get that some professor told you that we were war criminals that targeted civilians in order to do the most evil possible….but he was wrong and so are you.
P.S. the US made great efforts to stay out of the war all together. Japan attacked the US at Pearl Harbor before any declarations of war. That was a war crime
I get that some professor told you that we were war criminals that targeted civilians in order to do the most evil possible….but he was wrong and so are you.
P.S. the US made great efforts to stay out of the war all together. Japan attacked the US at Pearl Harbor before any declarations of war. That was a war crime
Posted on 7/22/23 at 10:03 am to fierysnowman
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the US made great efforts to stay out of the war all together.
Posted on 7/22/23 at 10:04 am to UKWildcats
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Get a grip man. It was the lesser of two evils
some folks are addicted to collective guilt.
Posted on 7/22/23 at 10:11 am to TaderSalad
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Someone along with a few others failed WW2 history. (Moscow was instrumental in defeating Hitler… but I get it, CNN wants you to think Putin is literally Hitler)
Well of course they were, but don’t be silly. Churchill, Stalin, and FDR-Truman all knew that there was an inevitable confrontation that was going to happen between the East and West after the war ended. Communism vs Capitalism. It could be argued and I believe that the Cold War started well before the end of WWII. Churchill definitely wanted to go after the Russians and so did our military generals.
Communism could have died in Europe in 1945 and that probably would have been the end of that. You probably don’t have the spread of communism to China and Vietnam. North and South Korea could just be one Korea. Allowing the USSR to survive and keep going, has brought tremendous amounts of pain, and hostilities between nations since 1945. Communism is the biggest pain in the arse the modern world has had to deal with.
Posted on 7/22/23 at 10:12 am to The Egg
Watch the anime movie ‘Grave of the Fireflies’.
It’s a masterpiece about the bombings and the aftermath.
It’s a masterpiece about the bombings and the aftermath.
Posted on 7/22/23 at 10:15 am to Mo Jeaux
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WTF are you talking about?
Probably that the war wouldn't have ended at that time otherwise
A land invasion of Japan was being planned by the allied forces which would have resulted in many more casualties of japanese citizens
This post was edited on 7/22/23 at 10:18 am
Posted on 7/22/23 at 10:18 am to jennyjones
My question was rhetorical.
Posted on 7/22/23 at 10:48 am to The Egg
I’ll throw this in here as a diversion, my uncle was a radar observer on the B-29 “Dangerous Lady” stationed on Tinian at the time of the 2 atomic bomb missions.
He was an amateur photographer and he took these photos, after the 2 atomic bomb missions, of the Enola Gay and Great Artiste, as prior to the missions it was all top secret. (I took photos of these from his photo album, and those are his written notations). He obviously wasn’t aware at the time that the Great Artiste flew both atomic bomb missions. He didn’t have a photo in his album of “BoxCar” that dropped the bomb on Nagasaki.
He did tell my father, who was in the Navy at that time and stationed at Subic Bay, Philippines, that his B-29 Dangerous Lady flew a mission to Japan and they passed over Hiroshima after the bomb was dropped and he described the city as being a “burning cinder”. He also told my father that the part of the airfield where the atomic bomb planes were located, prior to the two missions, was cordoned off and secure and highly guarded, and there were rumors that something “big” was going to be happening but they didn’t know what.
Uncle on left, Dad on right, Subic Bay, Philippines, late 1945 after Japan surrendered and my uncle was transferred from Tinian to Clark airfield prior to being shipped home, and the two brothers were able to hook up.
He was an amateur photographer and he took these photos, after the 2 atomic bomb missions, of the Enola Gay and Great Artiste, as prior to the missions it was all top secret. (I took photos of these from his photo album, and those are his written notations). He obviously wasn’t aware at the time that the Great Artiste flew both atomic bomb missions. He didn’t have a photo in his album of “BoxCar” that dropped the bomb on Nagasaki.
He did tell my father, who was in the Navy at that time and stationed at Subic Bay, Philippines, that his B-29 Dangerous Lady flew a mission to Japan and they passed over Hiroshima after the bomb was dropped and he described the city as being a “burning cinder”. He also told my father that the part of the airfield where the atomic bomb planes were located, prior to the two missions, was cordoned off and secure and highly guarded, and there were rumors that something “big” was going to be happening but they didn’t know what.
Uncle on left, Dad on right, Subic Bay, Philippines, late 1945 after Japan surrendered and my uncle was transferred from Tinian to Clark airfield prior to being shipped home, and the two brothers were able to hook up.
Posted on 7/22/23 at 10:55 am to Mo Jeaux
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We were begging the Axis powers to hit us.
How?
Posted on 7/22/23 at 11:00 am to Mo Jeaux
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A war crime.
Blame the USA first and often. No one hates the USA more than some its own citizens.
Posted on 7/22/23 at 11:02 am to toratiger
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Blame the USA first and often. No one hates the USA more than some its own citizens.
Posted on 7/22/23 at 11:02 am to toratiger
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Blame the USA first and often. No one hates the USA more than some its own citizens.
That guy is just trolling for reactions
Posted on 7/22/23 at 11:02 am to BlackPawnMartyr
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And a precedent was started that nuclear war can be justified.
Quite the opposite. Many of the scientists in the Manhattan Project were very worried that if the war ended before the bombs were used in combat, that the next world war would be fought with hundreds or thousands of atomic bombs, and part of the frantic effort to complete them was to get them used so as to prevent that from happening.
Nuclear deterrence only works if people understand what a nuke is, and until they were actually used, very few outside of the scientific community did or would. Peierls and Frisch talked about the concept in their ground-breaking memo in 1940 that started the British, and later the US, atomic programs.
Posted on 7/22/23 at 11:06 am to sta4ever
I don't think Fulmher was that fat back then.
Posted on 7/22/23 at 12:05 pm to Mo Jeaux
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We were begging the Axis powers to hit us.
It's amazing you have gotten dumber with each post in this thread. I think you've hit bottom with the post I've quoted.
Holy frick...
Posted on 7/22/23 at 12:14 pm to IAmNERD
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It's amazing you have gotten dumber with each post in this thread. I think you've hit bottom with the post I've quoted.
Holy frick...
It’s hardly novel information that the FDR administration was looking for an excuse to enter the war. Some of you are so pissy that you’re thinking I’m saying stuff that I haven’t.
Posted on 7/22/23 at 12:22 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Mo Jeaux
You seem like the that guy that’s never been punched in the mouth.
When someone attacks you, you respond with as much force as you can bring to bear until you’ve neutralized the threat. Civilians have been casualties of war since the first tribe of cavemen attacked the second.
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