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re: The Atlantic: weed legalization didn’t deliver on its promises. In fact, it made it worse

Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:10 pm to
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:10 pm to
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100 percent should be illegal


Bootlicker
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:11 pm to
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Smoking weed...can get others around the smoker high.

That's a lie.
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It also stinks to high hell.

So does laundry detergent to people who don't like the smell of chemicals.
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Also, people claiming it is non-addictive is hilarious.

It's not addictive.

You seem to have some strong opinions based on ignorance.
Posted by Jack Bauer7
Member since Jun 2012
5153 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:14 pm to
Certainly sticks up the cities with cheap skunk weed from the undesirables
Posted by lsufan9193969700
Madisonville
Member since Sep 2003
55839 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:18 pm to
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Smoking weed...can get others around the smoker high.

That's a lie.


No, it's not. It's nost definitely true.

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It also stinks to high hell.

So does laundry detergent to people who don't like the smell of chemicals.


This is the stupidest comparison I've read on the OT in a long time.

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Also, people claiming it is non-addictive is hilarious.

It's not addictive.


This is a joke, right? It most definitely is addictive to many people. I've known many.
Posted by lsufan9193969700
Madisonville
Member since Sep 2003
55839 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:19 pm to
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sticks


Stinks, baw! It's one of the most rancid smells around.
Posted by Stealth Matrix
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:20 pm to
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The whole “gateway drug” argument is weak. If you’re going to go to opiates/opioids/fentanyl-risk drugs, your “gateway” can be practically anything.

More often than not, the "gateway" is actually a licensed "medical practitioner" over-prescribing pain medication.
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:21 pm to
You guys call cigarettes trashy but spark up joints everyday.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85502 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:21 pm to
What does weed and opioids have to do with anything?


Opioid use increased with alcohol being legal too.


Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:21 pm to
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It absolutely is a gateway drug.

It is less about "gateway drugs" and more about "gateway lifestyles".

Sugar is a "gateway drug" by your low standards.

People go down paths and do things. You can't just sum that up to an ignorant "gateway drugs" comment.

And pain pills/ anti depressants are 10x worse off as true "gateway drugs" than marijuana.

Anyone that throws around the term "gateway drug" like it has a dedicated impact is an ignorant pussy who lacks critical thinking.

These comments come from people who probably take their "happy" pills so they can function or survive for the day. Or people that grew up in a protected bubble and rarely deal with adversity.

I'm sure its lead by doctors, lawyers, and mental health "professional's".
This post was edited on 3/2/25 at 12:23 pm
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85502 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:23 pm to
I had coffee before I had alcohol and alcohol before I had weed. And all thread of those before I ever had tobacco.


Caffeine is a gateway drug.


Posted by The Cow Goes Moo Moo
Bucktown
Member since Nov 2012
3987 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:24 pm to
It most certainly is a gateway drug. Smoking weed doesn’t mean that you’ll wind up hooked to harder drugs, but I have known many hard drug addicts who started their drug use with weed.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85502 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:27 pm to
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It most certainly is a gateway drug. Smoking weed doesn’t mean that you’ll wind up hooked to harder drugs, but I have known many hard drug addicts who started their drug use with weed.



Prob not true.

Caffeine is a central nervous stimulant and a drug.

Alcohol is a central nervous system depressant and a drug.


Many hard drug users started on those drugs.


If your kid takes adderall, it’s a medicine. If I take it, it’s a hard drug.


Thinking of coffee again, there are even little sayings like, no one talk to me until after my coffee, or there is a pre and post coffee me. People admitting they change persons after they get their fix.

That’s called being an addict.


But I don’t think any of these things caused the opioid problem.

Heroin had a perception of being gross and bad and it went away. Like with less people smoking cigarettes.

But pharmaceutical companies were safe, and doctors prescribed this stuff. The public perception was more favorable towards pill based opioids. That’s why it’s a problem. A kid didn’t need a drug dealer, just their parents medicine cabinet.

This post was edited on 3/2/25 at 12:41 pm
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
9544 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:28 pm to
About 7 years ago during the great opioid crises, seniors with long term pain management issues were left with no help when their GP was no longer able to write scripts for tramadol

The decision then was really hazardous fentanyl or thc gummies
Posted by Dantheman504
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:29 pm to
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It most certainly is a gateway drug. Smoking weed doesn’t mean that you’ll wind up hooked to harder drugs, but I have known many hard drug addicts who started their drug use with weed.

Do you know what "gateway drug" means?

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Smoking weed doesn’t mean that you’ll wind up hooked to harder drugs

So by your own definition weed isn't a gateway drug jackass.

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have known many hard drug addicts who started their drug use with weed


Like I said above this is due to "gateway lifestyles". 14 y/o living shitty lifestyles are around weed more often than heroine/ meth/ etc. Parents and people on hard drugs usually use those before their kids can get to them.... If those same people had the ease of access then they would use them too. You don't hear about that often because they just fricking die sadly.

Again this was another ignorant comment lacking critical thinking.


This post was edited on 3/2/25 at 12:36 pm
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
40396 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:29 pm to
The modern American gateway drug is Adderall. Seems like everyone has a script.
This post was edited on 3/2/25 at 12:35 pm
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
9491 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:29 pm to
CBD shops opening in an area has the same effect as Title Loan or Check Cashing places.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3468 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:30 pm to
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It's nost definitely true.



Not under any kind of normal conditions. It may show up in detectable amounts in the blood through passive smoke, but not in any concentration sufficient to get "high"
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This is the stupidest comparison I've read on the OT in a long time.


You obviously don't understand the concept of subjectivity. I am an ex-cigarette smoker and one trigger is smelling tobacco smoke. I almost never smell it anymore, as cannabis smoke has seemed to have taken its place. Good thing I say, as tobacco smoke smells worse.
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It most definitely is addictive to many people. I've known many.

I've known a lot of weed smokers, none of them have ever been addicted. Habit forming? Sure. Addictive? Nope.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:32 pm to
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weed legalization didn’t deliver on its promises.
anyone with half a brain saw that coming

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In fact, it made it worse
well yeah

Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:34 pm to
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I've known a lot of weed smokers, none of them have ever been addicted. Habit forming? Sure. Addictive? Nope.


To add to this comment I admit that there are a few people I knew in the past that smoked weed and continued down a bad path. But those people were already on that path and mostly were shitty humans to begin with. And weed was not that deciding factor on the path those people chose.
This post was edited on 3/2/25 at 12:38 pm
Posted by lsuconnman
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:35 pm to






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