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re: The Absurdities of Youth Baseball

Posted on 3/14/17 at 11:46 am to
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45196 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 11:46 am to
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Then year after year you have less teams. Kids decide to move on. I just think people should wait and see if the kid is going to stick with it.
This is true, but you also have less teams each year because more and more of the kids have left for travel ball. And basketball is trending this way as well with all the AAU and private gyms running league programs now.
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37339 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 11:47 am to
Your anecdotal evidence from your limited experience, which is not comparable experience, is not really an argument either. You've chosen a singular 'model' and applied it across a large group, so that you can frame your attempted snarky argument. It doesn't make it any more legitimate or experienced on the subject.

I'd prefer to not have your help, but thanks for the offer.
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
14981 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 11:48 am to
Are you under the allusion that if they didnt play sports these parents would have magically started teaching their kids other skills..

Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88419 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 11:49 am to
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it's not the sport's fault.....regardless of the sport...
I agree with you. The following is going to be very "OT" but it's true...

I loved baseball and started playing ONLY baseball when I was 13. I played travel ball starting that year through the end of my senior year. Yet I somehow got a 31 on the ACT my Junior year, was salutatorian, and got a ton of academic scholarships. Which, it turns out, I needed because college baseball gets the shaft when it comes to athletic scholarships although that didn't apply to me anyway because I played at a private college.
This post was edited on 3/14/17 at 11:52 am
Posted by GEAUX5
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
5145 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 11:49 am to
by his logic, the MLB would die out, college baseball would be no more because starting your kid off in a sport with low percentages of becoming something is asinine.

So do you not want baseball to be a sport or something?
Posted by Tiger4Ever
Member since Aug 2003
36795 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 11:50 am to
While it has gotten ridiculous...do you know how I know this pussy never played a team sport?

Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 11:50 am to
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I just said I wasn't saying my future child will play in the MLB ...... moron. read the sentence.




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Is that a fact? You know personally my future kid will never have success?



I never said it was a fact or that I knew for a fact. I said that I was willing to bet he would never be successful in the MLB.
quote:

I'm willing to bet your child, and everyone's here, will have the same career path when it comes to MLB.


Read the sentence.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88419 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 11:51 am to
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Please quote where I said experience isn't relevant.
You said this: "The OP isnt married and doesnt have kids.....anything he says is pretty much irrelevant " is "Not a real argument."
This post was edited on 3/14/17 at 11:52 am
Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
22017 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 11:51 am to
Of 3 boys who did travel ball, HS baseball, bass fish, deer hunt, rode dirt bikes, etc., 1 played college ball, 1 is playing college ball now, and 1 is still in HS and he may go a different route and build dirt bike and car motors. Spending time and $ on ball worked for us.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
61325 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 11:52 am to
From a travel ball parent:

When my kids are struggling to pay their bills later in life when they have their kids, at least they can look at their sons sitting over empty dinner plates and brag about their baseball memories from 20 years earlier.
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37339 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 11:52 am to
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I don't think it's rare that parents put too many resources into sports and travel teams that their kids begin to ignore other areas of their lives where they could have learned skills that will better translate to their lives after school.


I think you'd be surprised that this scenario is much more rare than you think.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 11:54 am to
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Are you under the allusion that if they didnt play sports these parents would have magically started teaching their kids other skills..


I'm under no illusion, I just think a lot of parents push sports to hard on a lot of kids. I think if the same fervor were shown towards school work and other translatable skills, we'd be better off.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
61325 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 11:54 am to
I see the responsible mindset of these kids now entering high school and college these days and believe you
Posted by GEAUX5
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
5145 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 11:55 am to
because they don't want their kid to become a couch potato in front of a tv playing video games all their life.

Parents want their child to be active when they're young. It's that simple of why they push sports.
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37339 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 11:55 am to
quote:

When my kids are struggling to pay their bills later in life when they have their kids, at least they can look at their sons sitting over empty dinner plates and brag about their baseball memories from 20 years earlier

Dumb
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
61325 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 11:56 am to
Not wanting them to be a couch potato does not equal crazy travel ball.

There are about a billion other options between the two ends of that string
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88419 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 11:56 am to
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I think if the same fervor were shown towards school work and other translatable skills, we'd be better off.
Being able to handle schoolwork and sports and sometimes even a job is much more translatable than only schoolwork.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 11:57 am to
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You said this: "The OP isnt married and doesnt have kids.....anything he says is pretty much irrelevant " is "Not a real argument."



Are you honestly not intelligent enough to see the difference between that and your claim that I said experience is irrelevant?

1) The OP isnt married and doesnt have kids.....anything he says is pretty much irrelevant "
-- this claims that one can't have an opinion on a topic because they don't have experience on the topic. This is not a valid argument. I can provide links if necessary
2) No where did I say that experience is irrelevant. Just that experience isn't necessary to have an opinion.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
61325 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 11:57 am to
You are right, it is dumb
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 11:58 am to
quote:

Being able to handle schoolwork and sports and sometimes even a job is much more translatable than only schoolwork.


It absolutely is. Those kids have a good chance to be successful. Most students can handle that many responsibilities.

Attention isn't a limitless well you can draw from.

If you have a bottle with "10 liters of attention", you have to give those liters away judiciously.
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