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re: The Absurdities of Youth Baseball
Posted on 3/14/17 at 11:59 am to Pecker
Posted on 3/14/17 at 11:59 am to Pecker
I just pulled my kid off of his travel baseball team against his will. He's been a part of this team for 5 years.
I also pulled him off of his club soccer team last year against his will. He was a part of that team for 4 years.
What do you suggest I do with him now?
I also pulled him off of his club soccer team last year against his will. He was a part of that team for 4 years.
What do you suggest I do with him now?
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Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:00 pm to GEAUX5
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because they don't want their kid to become a couch potato in front of a tv playing video games all their life.
Parents want their child to be active when they're young. It's that simple of why they push sports.
Nothing wrong with promoting physical activity. I think it's incredibly healthy physically and mentally for a child. I only find it to be problematic when it becomes the number one priority in a child's life.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:00 pm to Pecker
quote:You are completely ignoring (on purpose because you're still trolling) the part I quoted that says "anything he says is pretty much irrelevant". Meaning we are talking about relevance, not the ability to have an opinion. Your experience in high school, or lack thereof, is irrelevant to the validity of your opinion... according to you, of course.
Are you honestly not intelligent enough to see the difference between that and your claim that I said experience is irrelevant?
1) The OP isnt married and doesnt have kids.....anything he says is pretty much irrelevant "
-- this claims that one can't have an opinion on a topic because they don't have experience on the topic. This is not a valid argument. I can provide links if necessary
2) No where did I say that experience is irrelevant. Just that experience isn't necessary to have an opinion.
This post was edited on 3/14/17 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:01 pm to DaTroof
James Andrews has talked about this a lot and said it's a big problem.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:01 pm to tgrbaitn08
quote:
I just pulled my kid off of his travel baseball team against his will. He's been a part of this team for 5 years.
I also pulled him off of his club soccer team last year against his will. He was a part of that team for 4 years.
What do you suggest I do with him now?
Start working with him/her to find his/her interests outside of sports so that they don't have to go through that exercise at the age of 25????
Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:02 pm to tgrbaitn08
quote:
I just pulled my kid off of his travel baseball team against his will. He's been a part of this team for 5 years.
I also pulled him off of his club soccer team last year against his will. He was a part of that team for 4 years.
What do you suggest I do with him now?
Take him on a real vacation instead of Orange Beach or Panama City "World Series"
I did that with my son one year. He really liked the break and the real vacation.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:02 pm to ell_13
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You are completely ignoring (on purpose because you're still trolling) the part I quoted that says "anything he says is pretty much irrelevant". Meaning we are talking about relevance, not the ability to have an opinion.
You're confused. I'm not ignoring anything. And I'm certainly not trolling.
If you think my comment is meant to be taken as "experience isn't relevant" then I can't help you.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:02 pm to tgrbaitn08
stop deifying the kid and inspire him to open a book, learn the joys of reading, thinking. Teach him piano. Writing. Martial arts. Hunting. Working in the yard. Driving a tractor. Lifting weights. Running. Playing guitar and singing. Computer coding.
About a million things.
About a million things.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:03 pm to Pecker
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Start working with him/her to find his/her interests outside of sports so that they don't have to go through that exercise at the age of 25????
hes already a straight A student and he enjoys hunting and fishing as well as swimming. But none of that will have any benefit on his well being when he gets older.
What do you suggest I sign him up for?
Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:03 pm to DaTroof
Being on a baseball team allows a kid the opportunity to be around other kids that they often wouldn't meet or do anything else with. In other words, it teaches them the real-world skill of being on a team. It is their first "workplace."
When I coached a team, my son came up to me and told me he didn't like another kid, and that other kid didn't like him. I told him, it doesn't matter whether you like each other or not. You both work together on a team, to win. When you are older, you are going to work with lots of people, and there will be many that you don't like. You do your job, and they will do theirs.
I thought that was an important lesson for him to learn. We can't go through life assuming that everyone out there is just like us. We have to learn to get along. Sports is a great vehicle for teaching that.
When I coached a team, my son came up to me and told me he didn't like another kid, and that other kid didn't like him. I told him, it doesn't matter whether you like each other or not. You both work together on a team, to win. When you are older, you are going to work with lots of people, and there will be many that you don't like. You do your job, and they will do theirs.
I thought that was an important lesson for him to learn. We can't go through life assuming that everyone out there is just like us. We have to learn to get along. Sports is a great vehicle for teaching that.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:04 pm to SmackDaniels
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James Andrews has talked about this a lot and said it's a big problem.
Of course it's a big problem. It's odd that people in this thread are pretending like a lot of parents out there don't put pressure on their kids to excel in sports.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:05 pm to Pecker
quote:Well considering you told someone it's not a valid argument to use someone's experience to determine the relevance of their opinion, then I can't help you either.
If you think my comment is meant to be taken as "experience isn't relevant" then I can't help you.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:05 pm to theunknownknight
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open a book, learn the joys of reading, thinking. Teach him piano. Writing. Martial arts. Hunting. Working in the yard. Driving a tractor. Lifting weights. Running. Playing guitar and singing. Computer coding.
he actually already does most of that..hes been playing the piano since he was 4. He hunts and fishes with me whenever he's not playing or practicing baseball or soccer. He loves to read and is a math wizard.
What do you suggest I do now since I pulled him out of baseball and soccer against his will?
Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:06 pm to tgrbaitn08
Debate club
Lab volunteer
Hospital volunteer
Computer science
Surround him with people that will make him want to be successful in that area. He'll want to push himself.
The reason kids succeed comes from within them and it is drawn out by the people/activities they in which they are surrounded.
If you want him to be better at baseball, surround him with baseball players.
If you want him to be smarter, surround him with smarter people.
Sooner or later, life will become too full for him and he will drop all the things he doesn't love. You'd better hope baseball isn't the last man standing.
Lab volunteer
Hospital volunteer
Computer science
Surround him with people that will make him want to be successful in that area. He'll want to push himself.
The reason kids succeed comes from within them and it is drawn out by the people/activities they in which they are surrounded.
If you want him to be better at baseball, surround him with baseball players.
If you want him to be smarter, surround him with smarter people.
Sooner or later, life will become too full for him and he will drop all the things he doesn't love. You'd better hope baseball isn't the last man standing.
This post was edited on 3/14/17 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:06 pm to Pecker
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I think if the same fervor were shown towards school work and other translatable skills, we'd be better off.
People tend to push things that they know and find enjoyable.. Of these anecdotal teammates that were only taught the skills of sports, did their families show signs that they would know other skills or success?
Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:07 pm to theunknownknight
quote:juvenile delinquents
Martial arts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:07 pm to meauxjeaux2
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Take him on a real vacation instead of Orange Beach or Panama City "World Series"
We're going to Cooperstown for a week this summer quote:
I did that with my son one year. He really liked the break and the real vacation.
we do a beach trip, ski trip and a road trip separate from sports a couple times a year. He also comes hunting and fishing with me on the reg
Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:08 pm to tgrbaitn08
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hes already a straight A student and he enjoys hunting and fishing as well as swimming. But none of that will have any benefit on his well being when he gets older.
What do you suggest I sign him up for?
Are you asking for trolling purposes or do you just want my thoughts? If I'm being completely honest, I would put them in something that makes them use their mind in a different way, like learning piano and learning a new language like Russian, German or Mandarin.
As far as physical activity, it sounds like he's already active. I would also challenge them to create a "business" where they start selling stuff and learn the pitfalls and responsibilities of actually managing money. My sister does shite like that with her kid (my niece) and I thought it sounded crazy at first but it's turned that kid into a really impressive 10 year old -- who is also physically active in gymnastics. She also does piano.
My overall opinion is that parents get in a bubble surrounded by other parents who want the same thing: for their kid to be a standout athlete, and then they end up with kids who aren't very well-rounded.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:08 pm to tgrbaitn08
I don't know how the hell you have any time for anything besides baseball.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:09 pm to ell_13
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Well considering you told someone it's not a valid argument to use someone's experience to determine the relevance of their opinion, then I can't help you either.
It's not valid to tell someone their opinion on children is irrelevant because they don't have personal experience in raising children.
Tell me if you disagree. Also tell me if you think that means I don't value experience.
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