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re: That one thing I simply cannot get past in all of this Coronavirus Mess

Posted on 3/25/20 at 12:01 pm to
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
19320 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 12:01 pm to
Do your remember when Burrow went 21 for 24 against Florida ??? This virus wasn't around yet . Sooooooo
Build a bunch of damn expensive arse ventilators to just have? who do you think is gonna run them? you just don’t walk in & flip a switch & it works. your FP is not managing vents.
Princess what do you want from your government?
This post was edited on 3/25/20 at 2:15 pm
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4965 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 12:02 pm to
I think the response is not nearly as bad as it being portrayed. The most concerning to me was the lack of medical supplies and testing kits and how reliant we as a nation are to other countries in supplying these products.

I hope this changes and we become more self-reliant for critical products and supplies. Stockpiling these are essential moving forward.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46739 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 12:02 pm to
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It's up to the commander in chief to green light the response and set everything in motion, and he chose to wish it all away instead.


Yet another person who wants to place the blame on only one person.

Who's fault was it that the CDC chose to not use the WHO test and then fumbled making their own, delaying testing by weeks?

The CDC, or Trump?

Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 12:03 pm to
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It's quite obviously the biggest national/homeland security risk any of us who didn't live through WWII 80 years ago have experienced.


It’s really not that big a risk.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42780 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 12:06 pm to
The administration wanted to ban travel from China and other hot spots in January. They were called racists and told this was no big deal
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27875 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 12:07 pm to
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Maybe because big government isn’t the answer but rather individual responsibility


How so?

A national healthcare crisis? Excuse me, global crisis.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42780 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 12:09 pm to
We’ve been told that social distancing and basic personal hygiene would slow this. If people did this, would we need to have the government shut down everything except government?
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
5131 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 12:12 pm to
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An Administration that didn’t care to heed the warnings from China for 3 months
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If you were following the news back in January,going into February Trump was preoccupied with the impeachment fiasco.
I agree Trump kinda dropped the ball but I’ll give him a pass considering all the Democrat Russia collusion hearing bullshite and then the impeachment nonsense.When he enacted the travel ban from China he was excoriated by the Dems and the fake news media as being xenophobic.
If the Dems and MSM would let Trump be president and focus their energies on defeating him in 2020 elections instead of trying to destroy him the country would be much better off.So would they,all they have to offer as a candidate is a demented old POS.
Who would you suggest could have handled it better?
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9742 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 12:15 pm to
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It's quite obviously the biggest national/homeland security risk any of us who didn't live through WWII 80 years ago have experienced.


quote:

It’s really not that big a risk.


You realize that it does not matter AT ALL whether you think the measures are commensurate with the risk.

ALL that matters is that every major leader across the world is treating it like that level of risk.

Which, obviously, makes it that level of risk.


Posted by Unknown_Poster
Member since Jun 2013
5758 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 12:17 pm to
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thats why we have the lowest deaths

Where's that stat coming from? Never mind the fact the virus tracking just started to ramp up about a week or so ago in this country. We haven't reached the peak yet.

Talk about fake news.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 12:18 pm to
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ALL that matters is that every major leader across the world is treating it like that level of risk.

Which, obviously, makes it that level of risk.


Yeah, because government officials have NEVER overreacted.
Posted by klrstix
Shreveport, LA
Member since Oct 2006
3646 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 12:25 pm to
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It's quite obviously the biggest national/homeland security risk any of us who didn't live through WWII 80 years ago have experienced.



Anyone that lived through the cold war cannot say this...

1st there is the Cuban Missile crisis...

There are maybe 1 or 2 other occasions (I would have to spend time to research to get details...) where there was a legitimate nuclear threat moments during those decades...

I do not see this COVID 19 virus as an existential threat to our nation..

This post was edited on 3/25/20 at 12:30 pm
Posted by Eightballjacket
Member since Jan 2016
8099 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 12:35 pm to
Sir, you are going to have to remove your shoes before you are cleared by TSA.
Posted by klrstix
Shreveport, LA
Member since Oct 2006
3646 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 12:38 pm to
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China, initially downplayed the seriousness of the virus, and its relative novelty.


I believe this is an understatement. As I understand it, China refused to even let some of our experts in to help and evaluate events on the ground. I am not even sure (not able to investigate at the moment..) if anyone with WHO has actually been able to up to this point.


So we just have to take China's word at the scope of events to date...

Posted by heatom2
At the plant, baw.
Member since Nov 2010
13108 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 12:45 pm to
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Who's fault was it that the CDC chose to not use the WHO test and then fumbled making their own, delaying testing by weeks?

The CDC, or Trump?


Which branch of the government does the CDC fall under?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46739 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 12:47 pm to
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Which branch of the government does the CDC fall under?


So should Trump listen to his scientific experts, like who run the CDC, and follow their recommendations, or should he not?


Posted by heatom2
At the plant, baw.
Member since Nov 2010
13108 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 12:49 pm to
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So should Trump listen to his scientific experts, like who run the CDC, and follow their recommendations, or should he not?


The current head of the CDC was appointed in 2018. Where does the buck stop exactly?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46739 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 12:53 pm to
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The current head of the CDC was appointed in 2018. Where does the buck stop exactly?


You didn't answer my question. Should Trump listen to his scientific experts, or should he not?


Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
13240 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 1:06 pm to
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You should probably bring that up with the CDC then. You know, the agency that didn't want to use the WHO tests and instead develop their own, that initial didn't even work correctly.


No, take it up the man who the Fat Orange Bastard appointed to lead the CDC. Perhaps the fact that many appointments is such agencies remained infilled because a Trump doesn’t prioritize. Not to mention the revolving door of acting FDA Commissioners since Trump took office.
When the tests weren’t becoming readily available, most leaders would ask what the frick with the hold up and demand it be fixed. They would ask for options, alternatives. They would want frequent updates. Because it was the fricking linchpin to the crisis.
Trump was briefed early about the coming threat. “It’s a hoax.” It will go away. “ a miracle.”

He’s no Truman. The buck always stops somewhere else!!!
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46739 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 1:08 pm to
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No, take it up the man who the Fat Orange Bastard appointed to lead the CDC.


So you're saying Trump should in fact not listen to the scientific experts on this?

Unless you're saying Dr. Redford is not an expert in this area?

I'm just trying to get some of your stories straight. One day you're railing against the "fat orange bastard" for not listening to the experts, the next you're saying it's his fault for listening to his experts.

So which is it?

This post was edited on 3/25/20 at 1:10 pm
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