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TFLtruck is going to drive a F-150 Lightning EV truck from Colorado to Prudhoe Bay, AK

Posted on 6/14/22 at 2:02 am
Posted by rickgrimes
Member since Jan 2011
4181 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 2:02 am
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TFL Studios just bought one of the first, all-electric 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning pickup trucks – and we’re driving it from Michigan to Colorado… Right now!

Yes, we tested the Rivian R1T recently, but many truck fans know that the 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning is built for the masses. That’s exactly why we just bought one. Many truck fans are curious about the real-world capability of this pickup truck. That’s why we traded in our beloved Ram 1500 TRX for it. This is the tip of the proverbial iceberg with real electric pickup trucks.

TFL Studios will be heading to Prudhoe Bay, Alaska in the 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning.

Driving an all-electric vehicle off the grid is one thing, but heading to one of the northern-most locations is another. Prudhoe Bay isn’t a simple stroll passing Canada, it is extraordinarily remote. Simply finding electricity along the way will be a monstrous challenge. On top of that, the route is fraught with rugged challenges. It’s not for the meek, to say the least.





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With all the charging stops that will be required for this trip, we will probably not see these guys till the 2024 presidential elections....assuming they make it back.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16864 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 2:32 am to
I’m sure they’ll try.

Ford can’t even make a gas powered Bronco that works. I wouldn’t trust them with an EV. And that’s on top of the natural disadvantage that EVs have with limited range and charging.

Those guys better bring a support vehicle and a bunch of tents.
This post was edited on 6/14/22 at 2:37 am
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51907 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 2:58 am to
They have already completed the first leg: 1300 miles in a day and a half.

About the same as gas.

Don’t see how they make it past Alaska though.
This post was edited on 6/14/22 at 2:59 am
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 3:53 am to
Something about this just doesn’t sit right with me. Ford has a lot to lose and everything to gain with this venture depending upon the outcome, which makes me wonder if all of this is truly on the up and up. I may be a little cynical here, but lots of money hangs in the balance here, not to mention getting people on board the whole EV bandwagon. It reads like a commercial for the Ford Lightning EV Truck, which I feel strongly you will see at the end of all of this.


Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 4:08 am to
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Ford has a lot to lose and everything to gain with this venture depending upon the outcome, which makes me wonder if all of this is truly on the up and up.


Are you suggesting TFLtruck is bought and paid for?
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 4:11 am to
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Are you suggesting TFLtruck is bought and paid for?



Not necessarily, but I am saying that there is a ton of money at stake here, and more than anything perhaps, politics to lose or gain from it, and so that’s when I begin to wonder how much of it is on the up and up and how much is being staged to make sure they are successful.


Posted by Tarps99
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Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 4:20 am to
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Don’t see how they make it past Alaska though.


I couldn’t see them making it past Canada, unless they dropped a 10 kW generator in the back with several gallons of gas with them. Or the help of a few good friends along the way with a 240v plug available for high speed charging overnight.

I doubt a 120v charge overnight gets them over the next hill before needing another recharge.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
39128 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 4:21 am to
Are they carrying a generator in the bed so that they are not fooked if they run out of battery between cities?

Can they run a genny and charge it while driving?
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 4:34 am to
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Not necessarily, but I am saying that there is a ton of money at stake here, and more than anything perhaps, politics to lose or gain from it, and so that’s when I begin to wonder how much of it is on the up and up and how much is being staged to make sure they are successful.


I think it would be extremely surprising if it was bought and paid for. The Fast Lane is a multi-platform multi-channel outlet with millions of subs and not known for press-release journalism. The videos from this will garner 1 million views in the first week and while lucrative to sell out a lot of the views will be hate watching autists that would love nothing more than to ruin the name of a 13 year old business if they step out of line along with kicking an EV in the nuts.

There are plenty of channels that engage in press release regurgitation and cozy up with only positive reviews but TFL isn't one of them. While they don't do clickbait hate rants they never seem to shy away from presenting the negative.

Car people are some of the most jaded folks you will find and don't suffer fools and sellouts well. TFLtruck along with almost all their channels are primarily ICE outlets so if it is gamed it will come out almost 100%.
Posted by Paedin
Tampa, Florida
Member since Apr 2012
2290 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 5:01 am to
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I couldn’t see them making it past Canada, unless they dropped a 10 kW generator in the back with several gallons of gas with them. Or the help of a few good friends along the way with a 240v plug available for high speed charging overnight.

I doubt a 120v charge overnight gets them over the next hill before needing another recharge.


I don't know how they think they are going to make it from Fairbanks to Prudhoe. Thats 500 miles on the Dalton Highway, and there are only 3 towns to stop at, and HIGHLY unlikely they are going to have charging stations.

Should be an interesting watch I guess. There is definitely a reason they are doing this trip in summer and not winter. Id love to see them try to pull this in January.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62794 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 5:26 am to
Truth be told, it's even difficult to make the trip in a gas truck. At one time, you used to have to keep a 5 gallon container of gas in your vehicle due to the long stretches across the Canadian northwest between gas stations.

There's no way these people haven't made the same preparations about charging locations for the trip.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93721 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 5:45 am to
Everyone who hates EVs and claims they’ll never work or replace gas powered are all regurgitating the same thing horse and buggy owners were saying when the Model T started rolling out.

Or when the internet started to become a thing. “What’s an internet?! How pointless and ridiculous!”
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
7428 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 5:47 am to
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Should be an interesting watch I guess. There is definitely a reason they are doing this trip in summer and not winter. Id love to see them try to pull this in January.


At least this time of year, there is daylight almost all day. In Fairbanks, there is over 21 hours of daylight this month, and the night is not totally dark as you never get out of twilight. Points north of the Arctic Circle will stay in daylight for a few days near the summer solstice. Pretty neat, but that would probably get old fast. A June visit up North is on my bucket list to see the midnight sun.

Trying this in January would be a suicide mission unless the truck turns into a snow mobile. I don’t think roads are passable in the winter time. Most places in northern Alaska stock up in the summer when land freight is available because in the winter time everything needs to be flown in. And you think inflation is bad for everyday necessities, a frozen pizza that might cost 5 dollars in the lower 48, might be 12-15 dollars in northern Alaska.

Here is a link to a YouTube video on shopping Barrow, Alaska.

The video is 2 years old so the prices have gone up.
This post was edited on 6/14/22 at 5:59 am
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119180 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 5:56 am to
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a frozen pizza that might cost 5 dollars in the lower 48, might be 12-15 dollars in northern Alaska.


Let's update those numbers for Today's democratic America.


A frozen pizza in the lower 48 might cost $12-15 dollars while in Northern Alaska the same pizza might be $75.
Posted by Narbona
Member since May 2022
169 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 6:02 am to
TFL got a new Defender a few years ago. The first was a lemon and had to be replaced, the second had issues installing the winch and had to be replaced. The third they kept for a year + and put quite a few miles both on and off road on it before selling it.

Their videos of the struggle went viral and likely cost Land Rover a few sales.

Given their reputation and history I don't think they will be sugar coating or staging anything with the F-150 Lightning reviews.

In the video where they picked it up in Dearborn they did say they would have an F-150 hybrid following along on the Alaska trip and it would be capable of charging the Lightning if needed on the last 500 mile stretch with only 1 town.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 6:32 am to
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Everyone who hates EVs and claims they’ll never work or replace gas powered are all regurgitating the same thing horse and buggy owners were saying when the Model T started rolling out.


The real issues with EVs at this point are price, range and recharging time, all of which have been getting better as time goes on.

The one truth is electric motors are superior to internal combustion engines in every possible way when you factor out the above three characteristics save maybe aural pleasure for some percentage of the population. Give a thousand engineers the operating parameters and power needs of a passenger vehicle and give them the torque/power vs rpm traces of each and I would be surprised if it wasn't unanimous that the electric motor was not the highly preferred option. If you moved the discussion to MASSIVE trucks the only change would possibly be recommending AC motors over DC accomplished by VFD motor controllers.

The number of advantages for motors vs engines are numerous well beyond torque/power delivery. One of the things that interests me the most is the ability to have instantaneous torque vectoring across all 4 wheels.
Posted by Macfly
BR & DS
Member since Jan 2016
8080 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 6:39 am to
The nonsense is making the trip equivalent to a Model T crossing the US. It's overlookable hype.
Why not buy a gas powered vehicle and make the trip like thousands have in the past?
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
11282 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 6:43 am to
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don't know how they think they are going to make it from Fairbanks to Prudhoe. Thats 500 miles on the Dalton Highway, and there are only 3 towns to stop at, and HIGHLY unlikely they are going to have charging stations.


Though they probably have electricity… so it’ll be slow but not impossible is my guess
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 6:48 am to
Hope he’s not pulling a boat…
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25641 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 6:51 am to
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The nonsense is making the trip equivalent to a Model T crossing the US. It's overlookable hype.
Why not buy a gas powered vehicle and make the trip like thousands have in the past?


What you said is nonsense. What they are doing is a real-world experiment into the practical viability of one of the weaknesses of EVs at this point. It provides actual evidence of the trials necessary to complete a pretty tough road trip even by ICE standards. I think it is folly to think it won't be tougher than in an ICE powered truck but it will provide actual numbers to the often conjecture based arguments just like the many documented road trips over various CONUS routes.
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