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re: Texas may become first state to mandate Bible readings in public schools

Posted on 1/23/26 at 2:35 pm to
Posted by Dizz
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Posted on 1/23/26 at 2:35 pm to
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lead to Christian students having to study from other religions’ books and teaching.


What's wrong with learning about other religions by looking at their teachings, especially when those religions have affected history and large populations?

Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 1/23/26 at 2:36 pm to
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This is pushing a religion.


Every school already pushes some religion. It's just a matter of which one. A classroom can no more get rid of religion than it can temperature.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/23/26 at 2:37 pm to
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Fixed it for you, and you're still 100% wrong.



Care to elaborate how an objective morality can exist without a supreme judge of that morality? Sincerely Im open to changing my mind on it. I really dont believe in a objective morality but if one is to exist..I dont see how without something akin to a god and even that I guess could be problematic.
This post was edited on 1/23/26 at 2:38 pm
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
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Posted on 1/23/26 at 2:37 pm to
Not sure, why don’t you ask the millions and millions of migrants around the world why they seek asylum in predominantly Christian nations.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
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Posted on 1/23/26 at 2:42 pm to
No, there is only one true religion. There is a reason most migrants around the world choose to migrate to predominantly Christian nations. Let’s use this as a means to rid the land of the anti Christian lgbt supporting freaks. May they be pushed back into California or other areas where their lunatic policies are already implemented.
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
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Posted on 1/23/26 at 2:45 pm to
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Care to elaborate how an objective morality can exist with supreme judge of that morality? Sincerely Im open to changing my mind on it. I really dont believe in a objective morality but if one is to exist..I dont see how without something akin to a god and even that I guess could be problematic.

Because when you have empathy and reason, you don't need a "supreme arbiter". You are the judge. You see parts of yourself in others, and as a thinking creature, you know how you'd like to be treated.

Altruism and empathy are biological in their roots and are codified by society and culture. We run on reciprocity. Are you suggesting that all atheists are immoral? Are you suggesting that they are indifferent?
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/23/26 at 2:46 pm to
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I don’t want what Iran has

then religion and government need to not be intertwined... period

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lgbt/dei/anti Christian

do you TRULY feel persecuted, on a personal, day to day, level? b/c as a while male in America, i sure as frick don't.... not sure where this make believe persecution, victim mentality that some of you seem to have, comes from...
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
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Posted on 1/23/26 at 2:46 pm to
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No, there is only one true religion

Absurd.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 1/23/26 at 2:49 pm to
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why don’t you ask the millions and millions of migrants around the world why they seek asylum in predominantly Christian nations
well that would take a while to ask all of them, but if I asked ten of them I bet zero would say it has to do with religion LOL
Posted by chRxis
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/23/26 at 2:49 pm to
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What is morality derived from?

evolutionary self-preservation... wanting to be treated well, and the reciprocity of that is not some mystical, supernatural thing... it's biological...
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/23/26 at 2:50 pm to
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Because when you have empathy and reason, you don't need a "supreme arbiter". You are the judge. You see parts of yourself in others, and as a thinking creature, you know how you'd like to be treated.

Altruism and empathy are biological in their roots and are codified by society and culture. We run on reciprocity. Are you suggesting that all atheists are immoral? Are you suggesting that they are indifferent?


No. And I generally agree with your POV ...but that makes morality subjective. ..not objective. I should of highlighted objective to make point more distinct I guess.
This post was edited on 1/23/26 at 2:55 pm
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/23/26 at 2:50 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/23/26 at 2:51 pm
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 1/23/26 at 2:51 pm to
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but that makes morality subjective


It is.
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
3293 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 2:51 pm to
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do you TRULY feel persecuted, on a personal, day to day, level? b/c as a while male in America, i sure as frick don't.... not sure where this make believe persecution, victim mentality that some of you seem to have, comes from...

It's truly been an epic fall. White males were the last group in this country, walking with heads held high, sniffing farts and loving it. Now everyone is persecuted and outraged. It's exhausting.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/23/26 at 2:52 pm to
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then religion and government need to not be intertwined... period


Let it be a decision of the states. It will allow decisions and policies to be put into practice so that we can all see the outcome of it.

quote:

do you TRULY feel persecuted, on a personal, day to day, level? b/c as a while male in America, i sure as frick don't.... not sure where this make believe persecution, victim mentality that some of you seem to have, comes from...


• CNN (November 2021): In an opinion article titled “There’s nothing more frightening in America today than an angry White man,” the piece argues that “racial fears, ‘stand your ground’ laws and an increasingly violent political climate are emboldening angry White men across America,” and states, “It’s this angry White man – not the Black or brown man you see approaching on the street at night – who poses the most dangerous threat to democracy in America.” ?
• Berkeley News (November 2022): An article titled “Loss, fear and rage: Are white men rebelling against democracy?” discusses how “after decades of economic, political and cultural change, many white men feel left-behind,” leading to a “makeshift force of white men… rebelling against democracy.” It highlights “deep-seated resentment” among white men activated by fears of losing privilege. ?
• Resilience.org (October 2020): In “The Problem of Surplus White Men,” the article opens with “The problem of America today is the problem of white men,” claiming they lie “at the intersection of guns, right-wing fanaticism, pandemic and climate change denialism.” It argues that “white men who are all revved up with no place to go pose the greatest challenge to American democracy.” ?
• YES! Magazine (June 2021): Reviewing the book “Mediocre,” the article titled “Ijeoma Oluo’s ‘Mediocre’ Explores the Danger of White Male Supremacy” states that “white male mediocrity is a baseline, the dominant narrative,” and that society is centered on “preserving white male power regardless of white male skill or talent,” framing white male supremacy as a systemic danger. ?
• MDPI (Social Sciences Journal, February 2025): In the academic article “Aggrieved White Men and the Danger They Pose to Democracy and Peace,” it argues that “aggrieved white men, once they start to perceive themselves as a group, have posed serious threats to democracy in the recent past,” linking them to support for authoritarian leaders and hard-right politics.

Not to mention that Dei is literally about replacing people like yourself. We have seen universities and corporations alike proudly demonstrate their Dei policies.
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
27926 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 2:53 pm to
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but Id say that a beliefe in an objective morality requires some kind of a supreme moral arbiter


and i can respect your opinion on the matter... i don't share that belief, but to each their own...

we are straying from the overall point of the thread, however
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17825 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 2:53 pm to
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well that would take a while to ask all of them, but if I asked ten of them I bet zero would say it has to do with religion LOL


Weird right. Most of the migrants come from staunchly Muslim countries where there is zero tolerance of other religions, yet they move to Christian countries.
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
3293 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 2:54 pm to
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No. And I generally agree with your POV ...but that makes morality subjective. ..not objective.

Mostly. But you glanced over the part abt biology.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17825 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 2:54 pm to
It’s absurd that this is even debated.
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
Member since Feb 2013
11059 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 2:54 pm to
Conservatives need to be careful about approving a bad principle just because you like how it would currently be practiced.


Somewhere down the road someone will use that principle to do something you don’t like and you may have to live with it.
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