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re: Texas may become first state to mandate Bible readings in public schools

Posted on 1/23/26 at 11:37 pm to
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 1/23/26 at 11:37 pm to
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The founding fathers, even as religious men, made sure to point out the importance of separation of church and state.
The Founding Fathers only limited the federal government in that regard.

States such as Massachusetts, Connecticut, New Hampshire and Maryland all had state religions into the 1800s.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 12:27 am to
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or you can just have common sense
common sense is not that common, or we wouldn’t have needed the Ten Commandments in the first place
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 7:55 am to
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common sense is not that common

agreed... unfortunately...

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we wouldn’t have needed the Ten Commandments in the first place

disagree...

but hey, it's all good, it is what it is... to each their own, as long as they actually treat others the way they'd like to be treated, IMO
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1933 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 9:15 am to
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The founding fathers, even as religious men, made sure to point out the importance of separation of church and state. It’s unconstitutional.


The establishment clause has to do with preventing an official religion. No founding father would have been opposed to using excerpts from the Bible as supplemental text in literature class, consider the Bible was widely used in schools already.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 9:27 am to

Like with other historical texts/documents, will teachers be encouraged to entertain and invite the same level of criticism as with any other text?

Or will Texas conservatives mandate that they just pretend to believe it?

Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1933 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 9:39 am to
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evolutionary self-preservation... wanting to be treated well, and the reciprocity of that is not some mystical, supernatural thing... it's biological...


I realize you're responding to someone else here, but I want to address this point. The "evolution" of morality is largely dependent on where a human lands on the planet and the subsequent group think of that geographical area.

Nobody living in the modern day U.S. has escaped the influence of Christian principles. That's all I was saying earlier.
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 9:45 am to
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common sense is not that common, or we wouldn’t have needed the Ten Commandments in the first place

Can you explain this?
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
3293 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 9:46 am to
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Nobody living in the modern day U.S. has escaped the influence of Christian principles. That's all I was saying earlier.

What does that have to do with morality? Morality wasn't born in modern day U.S.
Posted by TulsaSooner78
Member since Aug 2025
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 9:57 am to
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My 16yr old son is going through a super read right now, literally hours a day. He’s not in parochial school either, it’s completely voluntary.


And that is how it should be.
Posted by TulsaSooner78
Member since Aug 2025
2877 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 10:03 am to
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common sense is not that common, or we wouldn’t have needed the Ten Commandments in the first place


Do you think that, before the Ten Commandments were published, that the majority of people thought it was OK to murder other people on a whim? Or steal?



Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10599 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 10:15 am to
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Texas may become first state to mandate Bible readings in public schools


Were bible readings never done or mandated in some form in any public schools across the country before the Supremes incorporated a constitutional limit on Congress to also start applying to the states (in 1947 for this specific incorporation)?
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
3293 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 10:32 am to
Abington School District v. Schempp
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1933 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 10:39 am to
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What does that have to do with morality? Morality wasn't born in modern day U.S.


That's not what I meant at all. I'm saying that we don't exist in little individual bubbles where we're not influenced from the outside. Anyone who grew up in this country (outside of someone completely removed from society) has been inundated with Christian teaching, whether they're aware or not. Similarly, a person growing up in Afghanistan would be highly influenced by Islam.

Someone living in an obscure place like North Sentinel Island would likely have a very different moral code.

Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
3293 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 10:43 am to
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Someone living in an obscure place like North Sentinel Island would likely have a very different moral code.

Wanting homgeny and meeting outsiders with violence....sounds like they fit in here.
Posted by McMahonnequin
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2022
583 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 11:39 am to
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I wonder if the parents of those little girls say the same thing? Or if the little girls wished there were more people willing to ignore these things.


You should probably worry about your own family instead of what's going on halfway across the Earth.
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1933 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 11:44 am to
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Wanting homogeny and meeting outsiders with violence....sounds like they fit in here.


The parallel is not lost on me. It's interesting though that they're protected from outsiders for their desire to remain homogeneous and everyone seems cool with it.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17826 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 12:07 pm to
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You should probably worry about your own family instead of what's going on halfway across the Earth.


Imagine if the Americans had the same sentiment during ww2 rather than acknowledging a problem.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
35049 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 12:09 pm to
This is inappropriate

You have to understand this same shite will be used against Christian's when the other side gets power


Why not focused on actual arithmetic.
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
3293 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 12:24 pm to
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The parallel is not lost on me. It's interesting though that they're protected from outsiders for their desire to remain homogeneous and everyone seems cool with it.

Not particularly interesting. When you give nothing and you asks for nothing, you tend to become invisible.
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
15813 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 12:25 pm to
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I said this should happen in another thread awhile back and was obliterated by some because muh "separation of church and state" in the U.S. The Bible is the most referenced book on the entire planet, and understanding the fundamental tenets of Christianity helps students to make sense of the world around them and specifically the laws of our country. How can you even discuss morality without at least acknowledging religion's place.

We were taught about all of the major world religions in high school, and so were our kids. It's okay to learn about stuff lol.


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HouseMom


According to the Bible, you should STFU woman.

But seriously, if you need the Bible for guidance, moral or otherwise, you have/had bad parents.

This post was edited on 1/24/26 at 12:26 pm
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