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re: Texas bill: under 18 banned from social media

Posted on 5/1/25 at 4:32 pm to
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/1/25 at 4:32 pm to
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There are plenty of studies that show the negative effects of social media on kids.

Whew. I thought we stopped believing studies.
Posted by When in Rome
Telegraph Road
Member since Jan 2011
36228 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 4:35 pm to
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There's very few if any good reasons to have folks on social media.
FIFY
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61428 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 4:42 pm to
18 is too much 15 ok
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 4:49 pm to
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There's very few if any good reasons to have folks on social media.


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by When in Rome


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Number of Posts: 35911
Posted by When in Rome
Telegraph Road
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 5/1/25 at 5:06 pm to
2 things:
1. I don’t put anonymous forums at nearly the same harm rate for kids as sites like Facebook and Instagram where there’s a whole social ecosystem designed for jealousy, competition, advertising, and other harmful dopamine spiking addictive tools being used to keep people coming back. An ecosystem that’s driven by posting pictures of yourself in cool places or wearing new outfits or looking a certain way is far more damaging than discussing the news or books or ideas like we do on here.
2. Yes I have a lot of posts on here, and guess what? I wish I posted less! I deleted Facebook and instagram five years ago, because I found myself looking at them too much and didn’t like how they made me feel. Me having a lot of posts on here doesn’t mean I think social media is good. That’s a dumb straw man to throw out to get my heckles up. I don’t think you swayed anyone to your side with that gotcha. Good luck convincing people of your point with sophistic maneuvers like that. lol
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
19252 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 5:22 pm to
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I think both of those have calculable and measurable effects on kids, social media does not.


You’re just wrong. The entire premise you’ve based your argument upon is false.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 5:24 pm to
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You’re just wrong. The entire premise you’ve based your argument upon is false.


If I drink alcohol, I will get drunk, and my body will need to process the ethanol. It’s a bodily function.

If I (or a 16 year old) use social media, I may have a positive experience or a may have a negative experience.

These are not debatable topics and not being able to understand the difference is staggering
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
21918 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 5:28 pm to
Texas: muh freedom…unless…
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
19252 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 5:29 pm to
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These are not debatable topics and not being able to understand the difference is staggering


Quite frankly your ignorance on this topic is astounding. And so outspoken too, just broadcasting this to everyone.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10594 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 5:30 pm to
After reading bill sent to the senate the proposed bill mentions enforcement only on social media companies/platforms not verifying persons are adults, allowing children to use, and abusing any private info obtained in verifying they are adults. (It mentions not using the data for anything else, transmitting it, or storing it as it must be deleted once age is verified).

It sets a timeframe after a parent or guardian requests the deletion of their child’s social media account that the account has to be deleted along with ceasing further use and maintenance of it retrievable form and ceasing future online collections based on personal data input into account across all a company’s platforms.

The bill does cover not only residents opening account or creating a profile but also those the social media company has identified with a unique identifier while using or accessing their social media platform.

These is no mention of enforcing law on kids or on parents. The only mention of limiting usage by kids is based on existing federal law.
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Sec. 120.112.  USE BY CHILDREN PROHIBITED.  To the extent permitted by federal law, including the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act (15 U.S.C. Section 6501 et seq.), a child may not use a social media platform.


Enforcement  
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Sec. 120.115.  ENFORCEMENT.  
(a)  A social media company violates this subchapter if the company knowingly:
 
             (1)  fails to verify a person's age before accepting the person as an account holder;
 
             (2)  allows a child to use its platform;
 
             (3)  misuses personal information in violation of Section 120.113(c); or
 
             (4)  fails to remove an account as required by Section 120.114.
 
       (b)  A violation of this subchapter by a social media platform is considered a deceptive trade practice under Chapter 17 and subject to action by the consumer protection division of the attorney general's office under Sections 17.47, 17.58, 17.60, and 17.61.



I am not sure how well it narrows down to social media or how it excludes school message boards on school based programs, but it refers to other laws in some cases which I am not reading. Also, still not a fan of current means big tech has provided for verifying a person is an adult.
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"Social media platform" means an Internet website or application that is open to the public, allows a user to create an account, and enables users to communicate with other users for the primary purpose of posting information, comments, messages, or images.  

The term does not include:
 
                   (A)  an Internet service provider as defined by Section 324.055;
 
                   (B)  electronic mail;
 
                   (C)  an online service, application, or website:
 
                         (i)  that consists primarily of news, sports, entertainment, or other information or content that is not user generated but is preselected by the provider; and
 
                         (ii)  for which any chat, comments, or interactive functionality is incidental to, directly related to, or dependent on the provision of the content described by Subparagraph (i); or
 
                   (D)  an online service, application, or website used primarily for the purpose of interactive gaming.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 5:31 pm to
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Quite frankly your ignorance on this topic is astounding


I think social media is bad for kids, as I’ve said several times, I’m just not a big government democrat like all of you, which is ok
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10594 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 5:32 pm to
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Whew. I thought we stopped believing studies.

Pathetic as usually
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
87468 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 5:42 pm to
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Do you have kids especially any aged 12 and up?

I am also assuming you never did anything your parents tried to enforce on you not to do…


This is just dumb. The only argument is that the government should stay the frick out. That's it.
Amazing that people would support shite like this, especially on a conservative message board.

And no, just because people are against this doesn't mean they think social media isn't bad for kids.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37047 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 5:42 pm to
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If I drink alcohol, I will get drunk

If you drink any alcohol at all you will get drunk?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 5:45 pm to
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If you drink any alcohol at all you will get drunk?


Are you stupid, intellectually dishonest, illiterate, or a combination on the 3?
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37047 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 5:46 pm to
A kid having a half of a glass of wine is not going to be harmful to them, yet they still can’t go into a store and buy a bottle of wine.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 5:47 pm to
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A kid having a half of a glass of wine is not going to be harmful to them


Alcohol, in any amount is harmful to the body. Not debatable
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10594 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 5:51 pm to
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This is just dumb.


Is it as dumb as not having the ability to read a response in context to the quoted statement in a post?


Here is full post with quote and my response. You left out the key quote which was entire basis for my response.
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Then keep your kids off of it.
Extremely simple concept



Do you have kids especially any aged 12 and up?

I am also assuming you never did anything your parents tried to enforce on you not to do…
This post was edited on 5/1/25 at 5:57 pm
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
9140 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 5:52 pm to
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We need fewer laws. Not more.
*Federal*. We need fewer *federal* laws.



This is how state’s rights are supposed to work. Different states experiment with different social contracts so that the best ones can reveal themselves.

Personally, I’m glad that there is a state experimenting with removing a temptation that we know, unequivocally, our children are struggling mightily to navigate. We may not need this ban forever. But having someone experiment with banning it now will at least allow us to fully parse out the impacts.



This is exactly what the founders had in mind when they built this country… a laboratory of political experimentation where the cream of the crop rises to the top. I applaud Texas for having the balls to run an experiment that they know won’t be popular.
This post was edited on 5/1/25 at 5:53 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 5:53 pm to
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This is exactly what the founders had in mind when they built this country


Lol

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I applaud Texas for having the balls to run an experiment that they know won’t be popular.


I would say you’re a democrat, but you’re actually just anti democracy
This post was edited on 5/1/25 at 5:54 pm
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