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re: Tesla wins court case against Louisiana DMV due to corruption

Posted on 8/27/24 at 11:09 am to
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35932 posts
Posted on 8/27/24 at 11:09 am to
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Eventually, most car sales will be direct to consumer. That's what the customer wants, and it would allow manufacturers to cut costs that get passed on to the consumer, making them more competitive. If they're smart, they'll get ahead of that now. Start selling direct to consumer and transform their dealerships into delivery points and premier service centers with coffee shops and restaurants to attract customers that would normally go to Jiffy Lube for an oil change.


Once self driving cars really takes off people won’t even need to buy cars. You just will summon one like a driverless Uber. Big auto will be crushed.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12849 posts
Posted on 8/27/24 at 11:10 am to
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The Louisiana Motor Vehicle Commission is not the DMV, it’s a state commission, and the commissioners appointed to this commission also own dealerships in the state.

I think the dissenting judge’s opinion highlights the issue quite nicely, to be honest:
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"The issue is whether a company can change the composition of a state's regulatory commission because it merely disagrees with state law which the commission is required to enforce," she wrote. "But Tesla cannot use this court as an end-run around the legislative process."

The system is corrupt and broken, but NADA (along with their state-level counterparts) have managed to get the corruption codified in state laws. And then they got their members placed as regulators responsible for enforcing those laws.

It’s a tale as old as time but I’m glad Tesla is at least shining a light on it.
Posted by achenator
Member since Oct 2014
3304 posts
Posted on 8/27/24 at 11:19 am to
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Eventually, most car sales will be direct to consumer. That's what the customer wants, and it would allow manufacturers to cut costs that get passed on to the consumer, making them more competitive.

If they're smart, they'll get ahead of that now. Start selling direct to consumer and transform their dealerships into delivery points and premier service centers with coffee shops and restaurants to attract customers that would normally go to Jiffy Lube for an oil change.


LOL No. Dealers hold the inventory and they pay interest to the manufacturer to hold said inventory. Manuf. can push dogs onto dealers. "oh you want to sell some raptors, you gotta take these shite brown fusions first." Most dealers have 10's of millions in their stores they would not take being pushed out laying down after the manuf. told them how big their store needs to be to push the brand. We think of ourselves as astute buyers but many many cars are impulse purchases. Most people don't want to wait. Many cars are sold through service. "can't afford to put a $6k trans in your car well let's walk over and get you in something new. Oh don't worry about that negative equity we can roll that rifght into the new payment" Also dealers can push interest rates on to poor credit buyers that manuf. could never get away with. That sells cars. The big manufacturers do not want to be in the retail game. Ford is already backing away from that.

Before you accuse me of being a salesman, I have never been in the car business but I have made friends with some big players who own many dealerships. One is building a new Porsche store in a major market. I asked him will the store be the same as the flagship store they already have. he says "no, it's bigger it's always bigger" Porsche makes them build a certain size to represent the brand properly in a given market. They are not going to start selling cars agains them.
This post was edited on 8/27/24 at 11:24 am
Posted by YouKnowImRight
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2023
2957 posts
Posted on 8/27/24 at 11:20 am to
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Once self driving cars really takes off people won’t even need to buy cars.


Not anytime soon. The demand would outpace supply for a while, so it would be expensive as hell to summon one for a daily commute.
Posted by YouKnowImRight
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2023
2957 posts
Posted on 8/27/24 at 11:21 am to
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LOL No. Dealers hold the inventory and they pay interest to the manufacturer to hold said inventory. Manuf. can push dogs onto dealers. "oh you want to sell some raptors, you gotta take these shite brown fusions first." Most dealers have 10's of millions in their stores they would not take being pushed out laying down after the manuf. told them how big their store needs to be to push the brand. We think of ourselves as astute buyers but many many cars are impulse purchases. Most people don't want to wait. Many cars are sold through service. "can't afford to put a $6k trans in your car well let's walk over and get you in something new. Oh don't worry about that negative equity we can roll that rifght into the new payment" Also dealers can push interest rates on to poor credit buyers that manuf. could never get away with. That sells cars. The big manufacturers do not want to be in the retail game. Ford is already backing away from that.


So the whole process is just as scummy and predatory as it feels.

Burn it all down.
Posted by mthorn2
Planet Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
1585 posts
Posted on 8/27/24 at 11:40 am to
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lways makes me sad to see smug liberals drive these here. Just move to California already



So you want to wear what you want, drive what you want, buy what kind of gun that you want, but you don't want liberals to have a choice. This is ironically a very liberal stance you have here...
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
59213 posts
Posted on 8/27/24 at 11:46 am to
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So you want to wear what you want, drive what you want, buy what kind of gun that you want, but you don't want liberals to have a choice. This is ironically a very liberal stance you have here...

No it’s not

Liberals don’t want us to drive trucks and eat meat and they get laws passed. Because this is a conservative state we should be able to ban liberal things. Seems like some of you liberals forgot what happened last time they banned states rights
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12849 posts
Posted on 8/27/24 at 11:57 am to
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The big manufacturers do not want to be in the retail game. Ford is already backing away from that.

I don’t have any issue with manufacturers taking this approach. I’m plenty of manufacturers in plenty of industries elect to sell through a distribution network rather than selling directly to end-users. It’s nothing new.

I do have a big problem with the government mandating that specific business model. Manufacturers should be able to choose their go-to-market strategy.
Posted by MintBerry Crunch
Member since Nov 2010
5968 posts
Posted on 8/27/24 at 12:02 pm to
LADA can EAD too
Posted by TroyTider
Florida Panhandle
Member since Oct 2009
4036 posts
Posted on 8/27/24 at 12:04 pm to
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would allow manufacturers to cut costs that get passed on to the consumer


Wouldn’t happen.
Posted by F1y0n7h3W4LL
Below I-10
Member since Jul 2019
4112 posts
Posted on 8/27/24 at 12:06 pm to
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...feds say louisiana is corrupt as frick and to try again
Posted by TCO
Member since Jul 2022
3261 posts
Posted on 8/27/24 at 12:10 pm to
What are you saying exactly? If I want to buy a BMW i4 I shouldn’t have the right to do so?
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
59213 posts
Posted on 8/27/24 at 12:36 pm to
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What are you saying exactly? If I want to buy a BMW i4 I shouldn’t have the right to do so?

Boys drive trucks girls drive bmws

I’m not saying it should be illegal but gender politics is a slippery slope
Posted by BourreTheDog
Member since May 2016
2775 posts
Posted on 8/27/24 at 12:44 pm to
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What in the hell is wrong with this state?


See La Auto Dealers Assn and there’s the issue. If memory serves, Tesla owns its dealerships. Mega dealers of La wanted their cut.
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
19974 posts
Posted on 8/27/24 at 12:56 pm to
I have no desire to own a Tesla but making it where they can not be sold here is ridiculous.

Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82211 posts
Posted on 8/27/24 at 1:11 pm to
The Louisiana dealer lobby is really big and politicians are corrupt AF. The fact that this even had to go to court is insane
This post was edited on 8/27/24 at 1:47 pm
Posted by GrizzlyAlloy
Member since Aug 2020
2581 posts
Posted on 8/27/24 at 1:31 pm to
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Boys drive trucks girls drive bmws

I’m not saying it should be illegal but gender politics is a slippery slope


Are you really playing 'gender cars' now? What next, only people who vote for Trump can drive on the right side of the road?
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
59213 posts
Posted on 8/27/24 at 1:38 pm to
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Are you really playing 'gender cars' now? What next, only people who vote for Trump can drive on the right side of the road?

I wish

You libs should have to ride the cats bus since you vote to make everybody pay for it
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111518 posts
Posted on 8/27/24 at 1:41 pm to
What the frick does the DMV have to do with any of this?
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82211 posts
Posted on 8/27/24 at 1:43 pm to
What this did to Telsa was that it also prohibited the New Orleans Tesla location from offering demo drives, in addition to picking up your new vehicle from that location. Anyone wanting to buy a Tesla in LA, or even do a test drive, has to go to Pensacola or Brandon MS.
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