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re: Terrorist attack in Paris; shooting/grenades at bar & soccer stadium
Posted on 11/13/15 at 11:22 pm to Uncle Stu
Posted on 11/13/15 at 11:22 pm to Uncle Stu
quote:
Honor those whose lives were cut short today by contributing to the conversation. Don't hide hoping that others will fight for you
-Gad Saad
Posted on 11/13/15 at 11:24 pm to Canard Noir
Normal, hard working, progressive society cannot continue to hope Islamic cult will adapt and work itself into society. This simply cannot continue. I do hope leaders will begin to question whether Islam is really a religion.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 11:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
Been busy all day, can anyone provide cliffs of what we know now?
Posted on 11/13/15 at 11:48 pm to Rhino5
Well, I can tell you that "leaders" should never attempt to denounce the world's largest religion. This issue is so much more dynamic than anyone who isn't privy to all motives amongst all countries could ever imagine. I don't pretend to know how to approach this situation but to say ridding the world of Islam is the answer means you've no grip on reality.
So if all the world needs to get a grip, what do you propose we do? Build a wall and deport anyone that doesn't eat pork?
So if all the world needs to get a grip, what do you propose we do? Build a wall and deport anyone that doesn't eat pork?
This post was edited on 11/13/15 at 11:52 pm
Posted on 11/13/15 at 11:53 pm to Canard Noir
The human race is apparently too stupid to get over the caveman style hatred and distrust of people who do not look and think as they do.
Most of us are just people trying to live on the planet together. But some are determined to turn it into a fight.
Most of us are just people trying to live on the planet together. But some are determined to turn it into a fight.
Posted on 11/14/15 at 12:00 am to Twenty 49
Some have perpetuated this fight long before we've been here, while you're here, and will continue doing so. Have fun.
Posted on 11/14/15 at 12:01 am to Twenty 49
Well said. It is appalling to me that there is a real contingent on this board, in this country, who think turning the entire Middle East into glass is the obvious answer. I have no words for how myopic and cold people can be and it is scary...
ETA: for those down voting me, I seriously would love to hear an alternative that might help. I am sorry that I don't have blanket hate for people I don't know...
ETA: for those down voting me, I seriously would love to hear an alternative that might help. I am sorry that I don't have blanket hate for people I don't know...
This post was edited on 11/14/15 at 12:21 am
Posted on 11/14/15 at 12:15 am to Twenty 49
quote:
some are determined to turn it into a fight.
Yes, they are. Survival dictates one notices people like this.
Posted on 11/14/15 at 12:15 am to Canard Noir
quote:
Well said. It is appalling to me that there is a real contingent on this board, in this country, who think turning the entire Middle East into glass is the obvious answer. I have no words for how myopic and cold people can be and it is scary...
While I'll don't advocate turning the Middle East into glass, the solution is grotesque to our general nature of self determination. Historically, it has been shown that these countries and people are best kept under the thumb by mostly brutal dictatorships. We must give up the ideal that we can thrust our form of government upon them with the same results.
Posted on 11/14/15 at 12:20 am to Canard Noir
I didn't say exterminate. However there are monetary tax breaks for religion in this country. There's also establishment rights as well. People are hoping this magical internal accountability measure is going to happen within Islam but it won't. So does that leaves us with an option to continue to ignore and hope it changes or go on the offensive.
Posted on 11/14/15 at 12:27 am to bisonduck
Free exercise clause of the Constitution says religion is: "Freedom of religion means freedom to hold an opinion or belief, but not to take action in violation of social duties or subversive to good order,"
Subversive to good order... Islam could be debated in that respect.
Subversive to good order... Islam could be debated in that respect.
Posted on 11/14/15 at 12:27 am to Rhino5
I am not saying you are wrong but please do enlighten me as to these tax breaks for Islam. I think Joel Osteen might come after you in his jet...
Posted on 11/14/15 at 12:29 am to TROLA
TROLA, I think you and I are pretty much on the same page.
Posted on 11/14/15 at 12:29 am to Canard Noir
quote:
Joel Osteen might come after you in his jet...
Yes him and Revered Creflo Dollar and their millions and millions of dollars from their tax free corporations....I mean houses of worship. With that said I don't see Joel and Creflo preaching suicide vests.
This post was edited on 11/14/15 at 12:38 am
Posted on 11/14/15 at 12:49 am to beaver
This is a comment from the Yahoo Article:
"Let’s see if I understand this correctly...
-The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim
-The Beltway Snipers were Muslims
-The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim
-The underwear Bomber was a Muslim
-The U.S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims
-The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims
-The Bafi Nightclub Bombers were Muslims
-The London Subway Bombers were Muslims
-The Moscow Theater Attackers were Muslims
-The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims
-The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims
-The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims
-The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims
-The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were Muslims
-The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Muslims
-The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims
-The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims
-The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims
-The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims
-The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims
-The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims
-The first World Trade Center Bombers were Muslims
-The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims
-The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims
-The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims
Think of it:
Buddhists living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Christians = No Problem
Hindus living with Jews = No Problem
Christians living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Confucians = No Problem
Confucians living with Baha'is = No Problem
Baha'is living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Sikhs = No Problem
Sikhs living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Baha'is = No Problem
Baha'is living with Christians = No Problem
Christians living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Confucians = No Problem
Confusians living with Hindus = No Problem
***WHEREAS...
Muslims living with Hindus = Problem
Muslims living with Buddhists = Problem
Muslims living with Christians = Problem
Muslims living with Jews = Problem
Muslims living with Sikhs = Problem
Muslims living with Baha'is = Problem
Muslims living with Shintos = Problem
Muslims living with Atheists = Problem
MUSLIMS LIVING WITH MUSLIMS = BIG PROBLEM
***SO THIS LEADS TO...
They're not happy in Gaza
They're not happy in Egypt
They're not happy in Libya
They're not happy in Morocco
They're not happy in Iran
They're not happy in Iraq
They're not happy in Yemen
They're not happy in Afghanistan
They're not happy in Pakistan
They're not happy in Syria
They're not happy in Lebanon
They're not happy in Nigeria
They're not happy in Kenya
They're not happy in Sudan
***So, where are they happy?...
They're happy in Australia
They're happy in England
They're happy in Belgium
They're happy in France
They're happy in Italy
They're happy in Germany
They're happy in Sweden
They're happy in the USA & Canada
They're happy in Norway & India
They're happy in almost every country that is not Islamic!
And who do they blame? Not Islam... Not their leadership... Not themselves...
THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!!
And they want to change the countries they're happy in, to be like the countries they came from where they were unhappy and finally they will get hammered !!!!
Islamic Jihad: AN ISLAMIC TERROR DIRECTIVE
ISIS: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Qaeda: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Taliban: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Hamas: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Hezbollah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Boko Haram: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Nusra: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Abu Sayyaf: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Badr: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Muslim Brotherhood: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Lashkar-e-Taiba: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Palestine Liberation Front: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Ansaru: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Jemaah Islamiyah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Abdullah Azzam Brigades: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION AND A LOT MORE !!!!!!!
I'm sorry, I'm completely stumped...... Any idea who's causing the problem???"
"Let’s see if I understand this correctly...
-The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim
-The Beltway Snipers were Muslims
-The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim
-The underwear Bomber was a Muslim
-The U.S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims
-The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims
-The Bafi Nightclub Bombers were Muslims
-The London Subway Bombers were Muslims
-The Moscow Theater Attackers were Muslims
-The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims
-The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims
-The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims
-The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims
-The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were Muslims
-The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Muslims
-The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims
-The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims
-The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims
-The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims
-The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims
-The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims
-The first World Trade Center Bombers were Muslims
-The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims
-The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims
-The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims
Think of it:
Buddhists living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Christians = No Problem
Hindus living with Jews = No Problem
Christians living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Confucians = No Problem
Confucians living with Baha'is = No Problem
Baha'is living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Sikhs = No Problem
Sikhs living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Baha'is = No Problem
Baha'is living with Christians = No Problem
Christians living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Confucians = No Problem
Confusians living with Hindus = No Problem
***WHEREAS...
Muslims living with Hindus = Problem
Muslims living with Buddhists = Problem
Muslims living with Christians = Problem
Muslims living with Jews = Problem
Muslims living with Sikhs = Problem
Muslims living with Baha'is = Problem
Muslims living with Shintos = Problem
Muslims living with Atheists = Problem
MUSLIMS LIVING WITH MUSLIMS = BIG PROBLEM
***SO THIS LEADS TO...
They're not happy in Gaza
They're not happy in Egypt
They're not happy in Libya
They're not happy in Morocco
They're not happy in Iran
They're not happy in Iraq
They're not happy in Yemen
They're not happy in Afghanistan
They're not happy in Pakistan
They're not happy in Syria
They're not happy in Lebanon
They're not happy in Nigeria
They're not happy in Kenya
They're not happy in Sudan
***So, where are they happy?...
They're happy in Australia
They're happy in England
They're happy in Belgium
They're happy in France
They're happy in Italy
They're happy in Germany
They're happy in Sweden
They're happy in the USA & Canada
They're happy in Norway & India
They're happy in almost every country that is not Islamic!
And who do they blame? Not Islam... Not their leadership... Not themselves...
THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!!
And they want to change the countries they're happy in, to be like the countries they came from where they were unhappy and finally they will get hammered !!!!
Islamic Jihad: AN ISLAMIC TERROR DIRECTIVE
ISIS: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Qaeda: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Taliban: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Hamas: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Hezbollah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Boko Haram: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Nusra: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Abu Sayyaf: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Badr: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Muslim Brotherhood: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Lashkar-e-Taiba: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Palestine Liberation Front: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Ansaru: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Jemaah Islamiyah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Abdullah Azzam Brigades: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION AND A LOT MORE !!!!!!!
I'm sorry, I'm completely stumped...... Any idea who's causing the problem???"
Posted on 11/14/15 at 12:57 am to Canard Noir
What's especially sad is this board is, IMO, a pretty good representation of the (white) souths collectively shared views on race, religion, as well as views on global politics. Appalling is a very fitting adjective, I can't argue there
This post was edited on 11/14/15 at 12:59 am
Posted on 11/14/15 at 12:59 am to Teddy Ruxpin
quote:
Not to mention the attack on Beirut was essentially an attack on Hezbollah. So kinda hard to get behind them and that.
Hezbollah has been supporting Assad in Syria against ISIS
Hezbollah is a terrorist group that hates the US, France, Britian, and Germany. They hate anyone who isn't a Shiite
Posted on 11/14/15 at 1:06 am to Saints72
You don't have to convince anyone that Islamic extremists are a problem, there's no issue there. We all hate these same people but what do you do about it without compromising everything it means to claim to be American?
Posted on 11/14/15 at 1:13 am to Caplewood
Thank you, it is even more appalling in that we all really want the same thing but somehow we vehemently hate very slight differences in ideology. It is unfathomable to me that such subtle differences of opinion can be so strongly accepted or opposed. It is damn near comical...
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