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re: Terrorist attack in Paris; shooting/grenades at bar & soccer stadium

Posted on 11/13/15 at 9:24 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/13/15 at 9:24 pm to
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Seems like assimilation or a lack of, was the issue Sweden had with them.

sweden's issue (and this is mirrored across the west) is that it only took in the brown people to promote the idea of multiculturalism. when you do this, you tell the marginalized "you keep doing the same shitty cultural things that got you to refugee status", which promotes the failure to integrate
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 11/13/15 at 9:24 pm to
True.
Posted by Large Farva
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Posted on 11/13/15 at 9:25 pm to
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Posted by Large Farva
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Posted on 11/13/15 at 9:26 pm to
43 killed in Beirut

Crazy this isn't getting any attention.
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Posted on 11/13/15 at 9:26 pm to
That wouldn't work. Taqiya
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 11/13/15 at 9:27 pm to
This probably isn't the time or the thread to say this and i think many are understandingly emotional but some of the comments in this thread is showing the pendulum swinging a little further than it probably should.
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 11/13/15 at 9:28 pm to
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He wasn't saying it's why they attack us. He said it would please them. They've said as much.



Fair enough, but I stand by my original point.

Islamic terrorist groups don't care about our freedoms and other bullshite; the only thing the give a shite about is our religion. People try to attach all of this additional meaning to explain their actions, but it is and always will be religion.

Now, the motivation behind the leaders of these groups is completely different, but the people that will kill themselves with a suicide bomb do it because of religion and religion only.
Posted by Asharad
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Posted on 11/13/15 at 9:29 pm to
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43 killed in Beirut

Crazy this isn't getting any attention.



Thanks for posting that. I agree it should get attention.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 11/13/15 at 9:30 pm to
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Islamic terrorist groups don't care about our freedoms and other bullshite; the only thing the give a shite about is our religion


I disagree. It's Western values, not religion.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 11/13/15 at 9:31 pm to
frick. Who let those goat frickers into Tazewell County?

I left the mountains in 1984 I think. I didn't know gays or muslims existed until well after I was gone.

My little town of Falls Mills didn't even have any black people.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/13/15 at 9:38 pm to
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This probably isn't the time or the thread to say this and i think many are understandingly emotional but some of the comments in this thread is showing the pendulum swinging a little further than it probably should.

the thing is i don't care what your religion is

your values are what matters

what's funny is the reason i am scared of christian republicans is the same reason i'm scared of SJWs and radical muslims

they're all authoritarians who believe they should have the power to limit what i can do in order to promote their own worldview, because it's not strong enough on its own to exist without coercion. so i reject all of them
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 11/13/15 at 9:40 pm to
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If there are 2 billion Muslims in the world and only 1-5% are radical terrorist that is still 2-10 million radical terrorist to deal with.


And the worst part is they can actually do math so you know the calculations on their bombs will be correct!
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 11/13/15 at 9:41 pm to
Amen
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Posted on 11/13/15 at 9:41 pm to
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they're all authoritarians who believe they should have the power to limit what i can do in order to promote their own worldview, because it's not strong enough on its own to exist without coercion. so i reject all of them



I disagree. That is government in general, regardless of religion. Communism hates religion and we all know how that went.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 11/13/15 at 9:42 pm to
Now the Brit on Fox is dropping some truth bombs too
Posted by Asharad
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Posted on 11/13/15 at 9:44 pm to
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what's funny is the reason i am scared of christian republicans is the same reason i'm scared of SJWs and radical muslims

they're all authoritarians
I agree with that, but I also fear left wingers for the same reasons. I'm firmly stuck between left and the right, because both want to limit freedom.

But yes, Islam is right-wing conservatism.
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 11/13/15 at 9:44 pm to
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sweden's issue (and this is mirrored across the west) is that it only took in the brown people to promote the idea of multiculturalism. when you do this, you tell the marginalized "you keep doing the same shitty cultural things that got you to refugee status", which promotes the failure to integrate


And their daughters, sisters, wives and mothers are paying the price for it as 2% of Sweden's population is currently Muslim and male. Something like 65-70% of all of the rapes committed were by that 2% group.

They're all animals that needs to be returned to their proper place in the mideast.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 11/13/15 at 9:44 pm to
Communism is more economic or socioeconomic idiology... Not the same
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 11/13/15 at 9:46 pm to
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Islam is right-wing conservatism.


It's nothing like right wing conservatism.
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/13/15 at 9:46 pm to
This attack well be worse than 911. 911 was an attack on an icon. People died but it was the buildings, symbols that were important.

Today the killed hundreds of small, insignificant peeler at restaurants and concerts.

I know which I find more frightening.
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