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re: Temperature to freeze the Mississippi River
Posted on 11/18/22 at 2:23 am to LSUSportsFan2000
Posted on 11/18/22 at 2:23 am to LSUSportsFan2000
i lived in minneapolis for a few years. during the polar vortex the river froze over all the way across.
it was below zero for like 30 days straight, and hit -30 a few days.
there's no fricking way i'd walk across it though
it was below zero for like 30 days straight, and hit -30 a few days.
there's no fricking way i'd walk across it though
Posted on 11/18/22 at 5:47 am to LSUSportsFan2000
A few hours of below freezing will not do it.
Posted on 11/18/22 at 6:02 am to BuckyCheese
Water current and dissolved solids or minerals, salts, play a role and lower the freeze point.
Posted on 11/18/22 at 6:10 am to LSUSportsFan2000
I think, just maybe, there are better things to focus your brain power on.
Posted on 11/18/22 at 6:11 am to davyjones
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Bout 350 centigrade.
I don’t even know what that means
change that to 350 Rankine and it'll freeze
Posted on 11/18/22 at 6:17 am to LSUSportsFan2000
I don't know if that could happen, but back in the eighties, I took my kids to the levee to watch the large chunks of ice from up North floating down the river.
Posted on 11/18/22 at 6:23 am to LSUSportsFan2000
Wow, its almost like some of you never learned what kinetic energy is in school.
This post was edited on 11/18/22 at 6:27 am
Posted on 11/18/22 at 6:54 am to JayDeerTay84
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Wow, its almost like some of you never learned what kinetic energy is in school.
+1.
The kinetic energy generated from flow speed and the turbulence needs to be countered and getting air temperature down to 32 degrees, even if it were every night for months, simply isn't going to do it.
The Mississippi River at Baton Rouge flows at ~470,000 cubic feet per second. Niagra Falls, by contrast, flows at a max of ~100,000 cubic feet per second and has never frozen completely over aside from one instance in the 1800's, but that was due to ice blocking the river before the falls. With water movement like this, it's not just temperature but how long it stays that cold.
Also, successive layers of snow and ice can act as insulation, which also figures into the issue.
Considering the flow rate, I would say temps to freeze over the Mississippi River at BR or NO would have to get below freezing and stay there for a long time (the colder it stayed, the less time). Were we to see temps staying below 30 for a week we would likely see freezing along the shorelines where water moves less, but to get a solid freeze completely across the river (even if it's just a thin sheet in the center) at the least I think we would likely need to see highs only in the 20s for a good month (possibly longer).
This post was edited on 11/18/22 at 6:55 am
Posted on 11/18/22 at 9:00 am to Joshjrn
Good NOLA article. The freeze back then was even worse in Mobile, where the fresh water on top of their salt wedge also froze.
Posted on 11/18/22 at 9:18 am to LSUSportsFan2000
It would have to be sustained for several days in the 20s. It couldn’t get to warm during the day either.
The upper Missouri River gets that way in NE Nebraska but it takes a long sustained cold. Not a few nights.
The upper Missouri River gets that way in NE Nebraska but it takes a long sustained cold. Not a few nights.
Posted on 11/18/22 at 9:19 am to LSUSportsFan2000
are we talking during daylight savings time or standard time?
Posted on 11/18/22 at 9:32 am to MorbidTheClown
Probably standard time since the sun is out less ?? Right?
This post was edited on 11/18/22 at 9:34 am
Posted on 11/18/22 at 9:33 am to Caraway Rye
quote:nah, my family has a home in extreme NW Montana. I’ve been here for the past 2 weeks and it hasn’t been above freezing once since we’ve been here. Reached the negatives some nights even. All the many rivers around here I’ve seen have icy banks, and that’s it. Flowing water is too powerful. i couldn’t even imagine what it would take to halt the flow of a river like the MS river at the southernmost point.
Flowing water still freezes at 32 degrees
It would need to be coming from somewhere warmer
Posted on 11/18/22 at 9:38 am to Who_Dat_Tiger
The Red River froze over when I was in HS. Dont recall the exact temps but it was in single digits for days.
Posted on 11/18/22 at 9:40 am to TheFonz
Red River froze in Shreveport in '83.

Posted on 11/18/22 at 9:41 am to Lakeboy7
that sounds extremely suspect. It’s been single digits here for days and the flathead river is no monster either and I’ve never seen it do that. I’ve been here in the dead of winter many times and it’s never come remotely close to freezing from bank to bank that I’ve ever seen.
Eta. Must be the strength of flow that makes the difference from the red river but the Mississippi at Nola is probably just as strong as it gets
Eta. Must be the strength of flow that makes the difference from the red river but the Mississippi at Nola is probably just as strong as it gets
This post was edited on 11/18/22 at 9:42 am
Posted on 11/18/22 at 9:41 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
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It would have to be sustained for several days in the 20s. It couldn’t get to warm during the day either.
You could have this for a year and it’s never freezing all the way across the Mississippi in BR.
I’m thinking you probably need below -20 as a high for a month. But even that may not do it.
This post was edited on 11/18/22 at 9:44 am
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