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re: Temperature to freeze the Mississippi River

Posted on 11/18/22 at 2:23 am to
Posted by LSUtwolves
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Posted on 11/18/22 at 2:23 am to
i lived in minneapolis for a few years. during the polar vortex the river froze over all the way across.

it was below zero for like 30 days straight, and hit -30 a few days.

there's no fricking way i'd walk across it though
Posted by Mr Boyles
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Posted on 11/18/22 at 5:43 am to
Global warming
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
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Posted on 11/18/22 at 5:47 am to
A few hours of below freezing will not do it.
Posted by THog
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Posted on 11/18/22 at 6:02 am to
Water current and dissolved solids or minerals, salts, play a role and lower the freeze point.
Posted by Dawgholio
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Posted on 11/18/22 at 6:03 am to
Posted by Realityintheface
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Posted on 11/18/22 at 6:10 am to
I think, just maybe, there are better things to focus your brain power on.
Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 11/18/22 at 6:11 am to
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Bout 350 centigrade.

I don’t even know what that means

change that to 350 Rankine and it'll freeze
Posted by jctiger73
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/18/22 at 6:17 am to
I don't know if that could happen, but back in the eighties, I took my kids to the levee to watch the large chunks of ice from up North floating down the river.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 11/18/22 at 6:23 am to
Wow, its almost like some of you never learned what kinetic energy is in school.

This post was edited on 11/18/22 at 6:27 am
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 11/18/22 at 6:54 am to
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Wow, its almost like some of you never learned what kinetic energy is in school.


+1.

The kinetic energy generated from flow speed and the turbulence needs to be countered and getting air temperature down to 32 degrees, even if it were every night for months, simply isn't going to do it.

The Mississippi River at Baton Rouge flows at ~470,000 cubic feet per second. Niagra Falls, by contrast, flows at a max of ~100,000 cubic feet per second and has never frozen completely over aside from one instance in the 1800's, but that was due to ice blocking the river before the falls. With water movement like this, it's not just temperature but how long it stays that cold.

Also, successive layers of snow and ice can act as insulation, which also figures into the issue.

Considering the flow rate, I would say temps to freeze over the Mississippi River at BR or NO would have to get below freezing and stay there for a long time (the colder it stayed, the less time). Were we to see temps staying below 30 for a week we would likely see freezing along the shorelines where water moves less, but to get a solid freeze completely across the river (even if it's just a thin sheet in the center) at the least I think we would likely need to see highs only in the 20s for a good month (possibly longer).
This post was edited on 11/18/22 at 6:55 am
Posted by Animal
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Posted on 11/18/22 at 8:42 am to
0 Kelvin
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
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Posted on 11/18/22 at 9:00 am to
Good NOLA article. The freeze back then was even worse in Mobile, where the fresh water on top of their salt wedge also froze.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 11/18/22 at 9:18 am to
It would have to be sustained for several days in the 20s. It couldn’t get to warm during the day either.

The upper Missouri River gets that way in NE Nebraska but it takes a long sustained cold. Not a few nights.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 11/18/22 at 9:19 am to
are we talking during daylight savings time or standard time?
Posted by td1
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 11/18/22 at 9:32 am to
Probably standard time since the sun is out less ?? Right?
This post was edited on 11/18/22 at 9:34 am
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 11/18/22 at 9:33 am to
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Flowing water still freezes at 32 degrees

It would need to be coming from somewhere warmer

nah, my family has a home in extreme NW Montana. I’ve been here for the past 2 weeks and it hasn’t been above freezing once since we’ve been here. Reached the negatives some nights even. All the many rivers around here I’ve seen have icy banks, and that’s it. Flowing water is too powerful. i couldn’t even imagine what it would take to halt the flow of a river like the MS river at the southernmost point.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
25714 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 9:38 am to
The Red River froze over when I was in HS. Dont recall the exact temps but it was in single digits for days.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/18/22 at 9:40 am to
Red River froze in Shreveport in '83.



Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
22543 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 9:41 am to
that sounds extremely suspect. It’s been single digits here for days and the flathead river is no monster either and I’ve never seen it do that. I’ve been here in the dead of winter many times and it’s never come remotely close to freezing from bank to bank that I’ve ever seen.

Eta. Must be the strength of flow that makes the difference from the red river but the Mississippi at Nola is probably just as strong as it gets
This post was edited on 11/18/22 at 9:42 am
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Posted on 11/18/22 at 9:41 am to
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It would have to be sustained for several days in the 20s. It couldn’t get to warm during the day either.

You could have this for a year and it’s never freezing all the way across the Mississippi in BR.

I’m thinking you probably need below -20 as a high for a month. But even that may not do it.
This post was edited on 11/18/22 at 9:44 am
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