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re: Tell me why Imperial is better than the Metric system

Posted on 10/23/24 at 1:12 pm to
Posted by eatpie
Kentucky
Member since Aug 2018
1435 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 1:12 pm to
Subway would have had a hard time selling sandwiches using the jingle "Five Dollar 1/3 meter".

My shoes are exactly 12 inches long. This has been useful. Measuring with my foot using 30.5 centimeters would be tedious at best.

4 quarts make a gallon. The chevron in my town still sold gas by the liter until at least the early 90's.

1 mile is exactly about 5000 feet or something. This is sooo much easier than trying to figure out how many meters are in a thousand meters.

Cups, teaspoons and tablespoons for cooking is useful due to those being items in every household.

Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
2899 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 1:15 pm to
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He has a great discussion on the probable appearance and ethnicity of Jesus, though I don't think he is particularly religious himself.


You mean Jesus didn't look like this?

Posted by Big Chipper
Charlotte, NC
Member since Sep 2008
2883 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 1:17 pm to
Because I'm 6'5" an not 198cm.
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
6694 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 1:20 pm to
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The only county to put a man on the moon uses the Imperial system


But what system were the scientists, engineers and astronauts using when they went to the moon?
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
17359 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 1:21 pm to
If you ever find an engineer who prefers Imperial to Metric, ask him what he's built and avoid it.
Posted by TheRealTigerHorn
Member since Jun 2023
199 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 1:26 pm to
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You mean Jesus didn't look like this?



The only thing Taleb would argue there is eye color. Skin tones in the region would have ranged then, modern white being among the possibilities. Most of the older depictions have a prominent nose as well, another characteristic of the region.

Consider - Cleopatra was mostly Greek. How does that compare to her modern depictions?

Note also that the region has darkened in skin tone in modern times due to millennia of the slave trade, which devastated much of East Africa by taking large portions of tribal black women to serve in Middle Eastern slavery roles, including in harems.
Posted by TheRealTigerHorn
Member since Jun 2023
199 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 1:27 pm to
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But what system were the scientists, engineers and astronauts using when they went to the moon?


Already answered. Both.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
46605 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 1:37 pm to
It’s not; the metric system is far superior.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
46605 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 1:41 pm to
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1. Changing to metric would carry a huge cost under the surface. Think about all the engineering documents, road signs, mile markers that would need to be updated if we swapped over. Not to mention the speedometer in every single car.

2. You would have to change how everyone thinks about speed while you make those changes. Think about trying to tech the not-so-intelligent basic fractions again?

3. The imperial standard does have its practical and pragmatic benefits. The number 12 for example can be divided by 2, 3, 4, and 6 which has its advantages in construction. Fractions like these are typically easier to deal with on a tape measure than .3333 ect.

The UK uses metric, but their speed limits are in mph.

There would be little effect on engineering, except to make it easier. I’m an engineer, and I’ve done jobs in both, and metric is far easier.
Posted by bigfatpimp
st. gabriel
Member since Sep 2005
314 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 1:57 pm to
0DEGF is not meaningless. Fahrenheit based the his scale on 100 being (or close to being) body temperature and 0 being the freezing temp of of a particular brine, in this case 50% ammonium chloride/water solution.

Anyway, I don't think any of the temperature scales really have that much to do with Imperial/Metric. I believe the Celsius scale predates the metric system, and was later adopted as IS as a "metric" scale.
Posted by Helo
Orlando
Member since Nov 2004
4663 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 2:35 pm to
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quote:
Imperial is maddening, especially if you have to be more accurate than 1/16.



it's not hard to find a tape measure that has 32nds or even 64ths


So I measure out 4' 8 13/32 inches.
I need to back off 2 1/2 inches for offset
Then add back 1/8 for a reveal?

Yeah easy.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
43086 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 2:38 pm to


the best part of this thread is the guys who use weights/measures all day every day are preferring metric, while the preference for imperial is "it's intuitive"
Posted by beerandt
Member since Jan 2020
317 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 2:45 pm to
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0 being the freezing temp of of a particular brine, in this case 50% ammonium chloride/water solution.


Which was meant to be a standardized way of recreating sea-water.

0 deg F is the temp for sea-ice.

With 32 plus 180 equals 212, all highly divisible numbers to work with.

100 deg being close to body temp was the least important to nail down, which is why it's ~2 deg off.
Posted by beerandt
Member since Jan 2020
317 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 2:57 pm to
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At the operational level NASA, and especially the astronauts, preferred English units. This meant that before being displayed, altitude and altitude-rate (for example) were calculated from the metric state vector maintained by navigation, and then were converted to feet and ft/sec.


And then metric got reduced to probably some 6 or 8 bit hex-style number, which got reduced to binary for the computer.

Binary really doesn't like decimal- go look at all the calc hoops floating point has to jump through not to crash. And then still result in 0.99999999999 answers.

Imperial numbers were the final product.

Unless you want to argue we should work in binary everyday, the underlying system isn't relevant.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
84194 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 3:04 pm to
What really blows is: disc golf holes are measured in feet, while measurements in the rules are in meters. No one playing in the US knows anything about meters.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
28924 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 3:24 pm to
Easier to divide things by squares/sqrts: 1,2,4,8,16,32 etc... This makes things easier when trying to build things.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
34967 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 3:29 pm to
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If you ever find an engineer who prefers Imperial to Metric, ask him what he's built and avoid it.


It's gonna fall down because the architect/owner set the units Imperial? Not sure what kind of engineering you do but structural engineers don't get to make the decision.

Personally I can calculate in my head just as easily whether I use imperial or metric.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
34967 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 3:30 pm to
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So I measure out 4' 8 13/32 inches.
I need to back off 2 1/2 inches for offset
Then add back 1/8 for a reveal?

Yeah easy.


4'-6 1/32"

Done in my head in about 7 seconds.
Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
2899 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 3:32 pm to
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And then metric got reduced to probably some 6 or 8 bit hex-style number, which got reduced to binary for the computer.

Binary really doesn't like decimal- go look at all the calc hoops floating point has to jump through not to crash. And then still result in 0.99999999999 answers.

Imperial numbers were the final product.

Unless you want to argue we should work in binary everyday, the underlying system isn't relevant.


Dude, you're talking to an old-school electrical engineer who has actually programed in both binary and hex. I know how the math works.

My dad was a Rolls Royce aircraft engine master mechanic who taught me how to repair automobile engines made in many countries, and he left me all of his tools.

I'm fluent in both the Imperial and Metric systems. I have no problem with either one.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
10579 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 3:45 pm to
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I have a 9mm in my car.


I have misplaced on less than a metric dozen 10mm wrench's and sockets. Would you mind looking in your car for them please?
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