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re: Teen in Las Vegas who wasn’t on the search warrant shot at SWAT and was killed
Posted on 1/30/22 at 1:36 pm to Byrdybyrd05
Posted on 1/30/22 at 1:36 pm to Byrdybyrd05
Yeah, there has to be a better way.
If they know where a perp is supposed to be, can't they just do surveillance to confirm that person is in the home and either have certainty they are alone, or wait for them to leave and get them where you clearly know what you are doing.
I listened without sound, but was he hiding on the couch and started shooting. He had to hear the pounding on the door.
If they know where a perp is supposed to be, can't they just do surveillance to confirm that person is in the home and either have certainty they are alone, or wait for them to leave and get them where you clearly know what you are doing.
I listened without sound, but was he hiding on the couch and started shooting. He had to hear the pounding on the door.
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Posted on 1/30/22 at 1:38 pm to The People
I would love to see how you would react if SWAT bussed in your house in the middle of the night. I’m sure you would just comply like you said (sarcasm). I’m pretty positive if you have a gun by you in your bedroom, especially if you have no reason for SWAT to break in your home like that you would be shooting at all of them.
Posted on 1/30/22 at 1:38 pm to The People
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Comply or die. It’s that simple. If he wasn’t the target of the search warrant, he would have been mildly inconvenienced for less than an hour during detainment. Instead he choose to end his own life. You are presumed innocent in this country. The courts are always at your disposal. And with the amount of lame District Attorneys, you are even more likely to never even be charged let alone convicted by a unanimous jury. Stop fighting cops.
This a troll, right?
You watch the video?
Posted on 1/30/22 at 1:40 pm to ShortShorts
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when they overstep constitutional boundaries
Explain how cops executing a duly signed warrant by a judge is exceeding constitutional boundaries? That's pretty much the definition of constitutionally defined authority.
Posted on 1/30/22 at 1:40 pm to rowbear1922
quote:so, if you are a criminal and want to do a home invasion..just shout police when you kick in a door
if I didn’t hear/comprehend then shouting police.
Posted on 1/30/22 at 1:40 pm to Byrdybyrd05
No knock warrants should be rare.
The crime the police are searching for should be serious enough to warrant the search to preserve EVIDENCE and protect LIFE.
In this case, it was for a MURDER suspect.
Could the police only breached the front door, not entered, and loud called the suspect out? Yes, they could have. But we don’t know the intel and whether or not there was information that the murder suspect could have killed others inside the home by the failure of Officers to enter. Destroying evidence is also very easy when you know the cops are outside and about to arrest you for murder.
Despite the seriousness of the crime, the intelligence that the target is present or evidence of the crime needs to be very strong.
In this case, it was. A judge agreed and signed the warrant.
Make no mistake about this, the perp in this video choose to end his life. You’ll never convince me that the perp thought his shite hole apartment was being broken into in the middle of the night by multiple suspects breaching the front door with flashlights yelling “Police with a search warrant”.
Fighting violent crime takes effort. Sometimes people panic during those efforts. Won’t lose an ounce of sleep on this one and neither should anyone else.
The crime the police are searching for should be serious enough to warrant the search to preserve EVIDENCE and protect LIFE.
In this case, it was for a MURDER suspect.
Could the police only breached the front door, not entered, and loud called the suspect out? Yes, they could have. But we don’t know the intel and whether or not there was information that the murder suspect could have killed others inside the home by the failure of Officers to enter. Destroying evidence is also very easy when you know the cops are outside and about to arrest you for murder.
Despite the seriousness of the crime, the intelligence that the target is present or evidence of the crime needs to be very strong.
In this case, it was. A judge agreed and signed the warrant.
Make no mistake about this, the perp in this video choose to end his life. You’ll never convince me that the perp thought his shite hole apartment was being broken into in the middle of the night by multiple suspects breaching the front door with flashlights yelling “Police with a search warrant”.
Fighting violent crime takes effort. Sometimes people panic during those efforts. Won’t lose an ounce of sleep on this one and neither should anyone else.
This post was edited on 1/30/22 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 1/30/22 at 1:40 pm to RollTide1987
How many people sit on their sofa at ?5 a.m. with a handgun loaded (?legally) with that many rounds? I doubt he had time to chamber a different magazine.
People in adjoining apartments were really lucky none of them met stray rounds.
People in adjoining apartments were really lucky none of them met stray rounds.
Posted on 1/30/22 at 1:42 pm to Jcorye1
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Judge that signed off on that warrant should be prosecuted, as well as every single cop that didn't realize the person they were looking for wasn't in the house.
We need to stamp this shite out.
Sorry, but completely disagree with you here. While this is unfortunate that he wasn’t the suspect, there was a reason the judge signed off on that location, the police did announce they were there and fired back after the victim shot first. That is textbook.
As stated before, the victim may have been disoriented and awoken to what he thought was someone breaking in so he didn’t realize it’s police, but that doesn’t make the police reaction when he shot first stepping over the lines.
There is nothing to prosecute or sue over here
Posted on 1/30/22 at 1:42 pm to SoFla Tideroller
Them being in the wrong place would be a start…
Posted on 1/30/22 at 1:42 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Explain how cops executing a duly signed warrant by a judge is exceeding constitutional boundaries? That's pretty much the definition of constitutionally defined authority.
A judge can sign all sorts of stuff that is unconstitutional and even have the police act on it.
What's your take on civil asset forfeiture? That's signed by a judge as well.
Posted on 1/30/22 at 1:43 pm to Byrdybyrd05
That police department executed an innocent person. Someone who was asleep on the couch. I am 100% pro-police as my son is an officer but this no-knock warrant BS needs to stop. It's killing innocent people and putting officers lives in danger unnecessarily.
Posted on 1/30/22 at 1:44 pm to real turf fan
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How many people sit on their sofa at ?5 a.m. with a handgun loaded (?legally) with that many rounds?
Who the hell cares? He wasn’t the subject of the warrant.
Posted on 1/30/22 at 1:44 pm to UAinSOUTHAL
Could not have said it any better!
Posted on 1/30/22 at 1:46 pm to SEClint
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so, if you are a criminal and want to do a home invasion..just shout police when you kick in a door
If someone is pounding on the door yelling police and search warrant, I sure as hell wouldn’t be going for a gun. I would hope that it is the actual police and they ducked up a warrant. If that gets me killed in the future, not much I can do about it but I def wouldn’t run for a gun thinking it’s actually a criminal bc if it is the police and I run for a gun, I’m for sure dead
Posted on 1/30/22 at 1:46 pm to RollTide1987
quote:if I lived around there I would
How many people sit on their sofa at ?5 a.m. with a handgun loaded (?legally) with that many rounds?
Posted on 1/30/22 at 1:48 pm to Byrdybyrd05
I usually defend police but they certainly stepped all over each other’s dicks on this one.
When does the world riot?
When does the world riot?
Posted on 1/30/22 at 1:49 pm to UAinSOUTHAL
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That police department executed an innocent person. Someone who was asleep on the couch. I am 100% pro-police as my son is an officer but this no-knock warrant BS needs to stop. It's killing innocent people and putting officers lives in danger unnecessarily.
It wasn’t a no knock, they announced before ever entering the home. A no knock means you don’t even have to announce yourself before entering. They did before busting the door down
Posted on 1/30/22 at 1:50 pm to rowbear1922
quote:and it all could have been avoided by handling it a different way.
I’m for sure dead
If you are going in, you need to know 100% where the suspect is and will be. Otherwise, if you are 90%, should be a no go. I get things get dangerous, but it seems to be a lack of wisdom on all sides
Posted on 1/30/22 at 1:52 pm to BamaCoaster
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This a troll, right?
You watch the video?
Did you watch the video?
The cops announced before they began hammering the door and continued to announce throughout the process. The first shot was fired from inside just before the door was breached (you can see the door in silhouette from the flash of the firearm on the other side).
There is nothing wrong nor incorrect about what The People posted.
This post was edited on 1/30/22 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 1/30/22 at 1:54 pm to SEClint
I’m not saying it couldn’t have been handled better but once they decided to go in and the victim shot, it was fully within their right to fire back.
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