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re: Teamsters' UPS Trainwreck Incoming

Posted on 7/16/23 at 12:52 pm to
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 12:52 pm to
quote:

It's dumb that healthcare coverage costs the same for a 20 year old that won't use it as a 50 year old.


It's not, but there are caps on how much more you can charge 50 year olds than 20 year olds. Spreading costs across as large of a population base as possible is a key component of insurance when used as a core safety net for society.

20 year olds vs 50 year olds is at the bottom of the list of all the things that are fricked up about American health insurance schemes.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281998 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 12:58 pm to
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But it's way easier to fire a lazy asshat that's not in a union.


Its virtually impossible to fire union hands, which is why certain people like Unions.

"Job protection" for the average Joe means they don't want to put in the effort and still retain employment. For managers, its a fricking nightmare.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
75250 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 1:02 pm to
I have a friend in a union and he hates it. He has been taking up slack for the FMLA abusers and other lazy miscreants for 17 years. He's getting out.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
38655 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 1:37 pm to
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It's the Stakeholder vs Shareholder model. I prefer the latter, and if it's too bad, the workers can just leave.


You're a shitty human being.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
38655 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 1:40 pm to
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a functioning labor market left alone will freeze wages for the lower middle class for decades.


FIFY
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
38655 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 1:45 pm to
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This isn’t 100 years ago where unions might have filled a role ensuring worker safety and factory conditions


You should be required to work in some blue collar fields before you're allowed to express an opinion on workplace safety.

I recently worked at a non-union plant for 3 years. My dad spent 37 years working at a plant with an optional union.

I told him some of the stuff and I had seen happen at my plant and he almost didn't believe it.

These big corporations only care about safety until it affects money.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
10892 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 1:45 pm to
frick your unions.

I actively go out of my way to support companies that aren't hogtied by unions. Miller Lite being one of them. Unions are nothing but gatekeepers and protection for crappy employees.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
38655 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 1:46 pm to
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Unions are nothing but gatekeepers and protection for crappy employees.


Objectively false.

frick you.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
75250 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 2:53 pm to
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quote:
a functioning labor market left alone will freeze wages for the lower middle class for decades.



FIFY
Aye commrade!
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
38655 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 3:32 pm to
If you don't understand the stagnation of wage growth for the middle class, then I can't help you.

But it does coincide with a decrease in union participation.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26005 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 6:36 pm to
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This strike has mostly to do with part time workers.


What percentage of the part time workers are in queue to become full time workers?
Posted by Brotorious
NOLA
Member since May 2013
416 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 12:02 am to
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And the dumbest thing said in this thread is “UPS use to only hire from a college campus. Was a time most of your UPS drivers had college degrees.”


I guess you worked at a dumb center, or hub.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
21164 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 6:17 am to
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frick you


Nah, frick you, stooge.
Posted by Harry Morgan
Member since Sep 2019
9195 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 6:24 am to
Posted by Armymann50
Playing with my
Member since Sep 2011
20535 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 6:56 am to
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frick unions


they made this country dumbass
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
21164 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 6:59 am to
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they made this country dumbass



…. and have evolved into blood sucking cartels.
This post was edited on 7/17/23 at 7:04 am
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
130284 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 7:02 am to
Thats just dumb
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
46916 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 7:10 am to
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frick unions


Unions don't protect good workers. Good workers would have no problem finding jobs. Unions protect the dead weight shitty workers who need to be fired.
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
25114 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 7:12 am to
Smart to do it during the hottest month of the year.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281998 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 7:17 am to
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Unions don't protect good workers. Good workers would have no problem finding jobs


Yep. Its a club to establish the minimum effort required to to your job, and 90% will do just that.
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