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re: TBI charges two juveniles for starting Gatlinburg fires that killed 14.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 3:23 pm to Evolved Simian
Posted on 12/7/16 at 3:23 pm to Evolved Simian
How old are these "juveniles"
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 3:26 pm to HailToTheChiz
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Charge them as an adult.
That's a bit harsh. It's an unfortunate situation, but it's just as likely that kids were being kids when the fire started as it is that they went out into the woods with the intention of burning the woods to the ground. We started fires all the time in the woods as kids.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 3:26 pm to GEAUXT
don't where ages are listed. which is weird. must be really young.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 3:31 pm to MorbidTheClown
they should be charged as adults. actions have consequences. those 14+ families dont get their loved ones back
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 12/7/16 at 3:35 pm to gmrkr5
So if they were 8 year olds playing with matches you charge them as adults?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 3:43 pm to meauxses
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So if they were 8 year olds playing with matches you charge them as adults?
you think there were 8 year olds on top of the Chimney Tops playing with matches?
then charge their parents.
if that were the case you think they would be holding those 8 year olds in juvenile detention?
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 12/7/16 at 3:46 pm to gmrkr5
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they should be charged as adults. actions have consequences
If they were trying to set the county on fire, sure, but if they're a couple of kids with a fire that got out of hand, that is a bit harsh.
FWIW, the DA said additional charges are being considered and they could be tried as adults. Based off of those comments, I'd be inclined to believe the chances of this being young kids who just got overwhelmed by a fire is pretty slim.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 3:47 pm to meauxses
I thought that in the giant stickied thread someone said the authorities thought someone filled tires with diesel and pushed them down the mountain. Was that bullshite or a different fire?
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 12/7/16 at 3:47 pm to slackster
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If they were trying to set the county on fire, sure, but if they're a couple of kids with a fire that got out of hand, that is a bit harsh. FWIW, the DA said additional charges are being considered and they could be tried as adults. Based off of those comments, I'd be inclined to believe the chances of this being young kids who just got overwhelmed by a fire is pretty slim.
again, do you really think a couple young children wandered up near one of the most strenuous hikes in the smokies just being kids and their little play fire got too big?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 3:47 pm to LSU_Saints_Hornets
no way that kid is 3,5 years old or 35 years old or whatever that meme is trying to tell me...
He could have used another year.
He could have used another year.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 3:48 pm to bigberg2000
People who are capable of shite like that will always run their mouths to someone.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 3:52 pm to lsupride87
It doesn't matter. Somebody will always see you going in or coming out. Being remote can work against you.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 3:53 pm to gmrkr5
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again, do you really think a couple young children wandered up near one of the most strenuous hikes in the smokies just being kids and their little play fire got too big?
Did you even bother to read the entire post? I clearly said the chances of it being young kids with no bad intentions is slim to none, but we don't know anything concrete yet.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 4:08 pm to slackster
how does it work with regards to the civil side? are their parents' lives just fricked?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 4:32 pm to UpToPar
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That's a bit harsh
a bit harsh?
they killed 14 fricking people and damn near destroyed a town
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We started fires all the time in the woods as kids
so did me an my friends, in the woods behind beau chene...and if we had burned down the subdivision and killed people we damn well had better have been tried as adults
Posted on 12/7/16 at 4:33 pm to heartbreakTiger
quote:Good people including good kids can make mistakes. Bad kids can do things that aren't necessarily bad and it lead to horrific consequences.
talk about shitty parenting
Posted on 12/7/16 at 4:37 pm to cgrand
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so did me an my friends, in the woods behind beau chene...and if we had burned down the subdivision and killed people we damn well had better have been tried as adults
It depends on how old they are. There's a reason children aren't tried as adults. Children don't understand consequences of their actions. If these were 15 year olds, sure. If they are under 10, what do you gain by trying them as adults and ruining their lives? What's done is done, there's no sense in ruining the lives of children that were not capable of understanding the consequences of their actions.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 4:40 pm to UpToPar
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That's a bit harsh. It's an unfortunate situation, but it's just as likely that kids were being kids when the fire started as it is that they went out into the woods with the intention of burning the woods to the ground.
unattended 'children' don't wander very far in a national forest. More likely kids old enough to use motorized transportation to get to where the fire started
Posted on 12/7/16 at 4:41 pm to Evolved Simian
LINK
Probably been posted already, but I hadn't seen it yet. The wife and daughters who were left home while their husband and son went out to check on the fire are confirmed dead. Well, at least the wife is. Terrible for those little girls. They probably watched their mom perish before having to decide to move on without her.
I don't believe they've been found yet.
Probably been posted already, but I hadn't seen it yet. The wife and daughters who were left home while their husband and son went out to check on the fire are confirmed dead. Well, at least the wife is. Terrible for those little girls. They probably watched their mom perish before having to decide to move on without her.
I don't believe they've been found yet.
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 12/7/16 at 4:45 pm to gmrkr5
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they should be charged as adults. actions have consequences. those 14+ families dont get their loved ones back
If it was their intent to start a forest fire, sure. But if it was a campfire gone wrong, heck no. Sure it sucks people died, but intent is the biggest deciding factor on how harsh to be.
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