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re: Tax brackets, standard deduction get 7% increase for 2023

Posted on 10/19/22 at 3:02 pm to
Posted by brewhan davey
Audubon Place
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 10/19/22 at 3:02 pm to
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You realize this isn’t a tax increase right?


Yes. I planted that there as bait.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 3:03 pm to
I don't think this is a big "gotcha" if I'm reading this right....

Forbes 2021-2022 Tax Brackets
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 10/19/22 at 3:03 pm to
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Explain what’s happening here like I’m 4.


A number of "amounts" in the US tax code are subject to annual inflation adjustments.

This includes the tax brackets (what amouunt of your taxable income is taxed at the set rates), the standard deduction, the amounts you can contribute to a retirement plan, etc.

Importantly, a number that is NOT indexd for inflation: The net $3,000 capital loss that you can use to offset other forms of income.

If your income was exactly the same in 2023 as it was in 2022, and your situation did not change (filing status, taking standard deduction, etc) then you will pay slihtly less tax in 2023 than 2022.

This is for income earned in 2023... which is reconciled on your tax return filed in April 2024.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 10/19/22 at 3:04 pm to
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S1C EM


I honestly have no idea what you are confused about
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 3:08 pm to
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I honestly have no idea what you are confused about


It's not a tax increase.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85116 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 3:08 pm to
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It's not a tax increase.


Uh yeah...that is what I said

the tax brackets increased, which means a decrease in taxes for most people

This post was edited on 10/19/22 at 3:10 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 10/19/22 at 3:09 pm to
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but high wage earners on the edges of these brackets could slip down one and get rare chunk of their money back from Uncle Sam.


Withholding brackets adjust as well.
Posted by tterrific
Member since Sep 2022
649 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 3:10 pm to
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Standard deduction is nothing, but high wage earners on the edges of these brackets could slip down one and get rare chunk of their money back from Uncle Sam.


I don't get this. Tax brackets are progressive. You only pay the higher rate on the amount over the threshold. If the threshold rises it only erases the small amount you paid over the prior threshold. It doesnt change the bracket for your entire income.

Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 10/19/22 at 3:10 pm to
Gonna be a whole lotta dumb in this thread.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
83561 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 3:10 pm to
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Withholding brackets adjust as well.



Yeah I should have been more clear, I just mean keeping your own money, not in a "windfall" return.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 3:12 pm to
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Uh yeah...that is what I said

the tax brackets increased, which means a decrease in taxes for most p


And I wasn't necessarily confused about what you were saying. It was the few who saw it as an increase that commented before you.
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15791 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 3:17 pm to
Plus the deduction now is going to be huge for a married couple. Almost 30k.

Earn 100k, but pay taxes on only 70k.

For many people this is going to mean a HUGE tax CUT.

Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
13373 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 3:20 pm to
If inflation is 8% and the deduction and bracket levels increase 7% then it is a tax increase.

Why don’t tax payers get the same “rate” increase o. Tables and deductions that SS and other give assistance is getting…..
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
35646 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 3:26 pm to
This is Brandon trying to put lipstick on the inflation pig by saying, "Look what we're doing for you! You can make 7% more now without jumping into another tax bracket!"
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Member since Jul 2009
39209 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 3:30 pm to
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If inflation is 8% and the deduction and bracket levels increase 7% then it is a tax increase.


On the other hand, most wage earners will have less than a 7% wage increase.
Posted by TeaParty
Member since May 2022
935 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 3:33 pm to
This has nothing to do with Joe Biden. These are Trumps tax cuts that will expire 1/1/2026 if nothing is done. We go back to the old tax tables.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
71533 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 3:34 pm to
so, comparing to 2022. someone making $200k, it doesn't really change, right?

Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
89776 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 3:34 pm to
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honestly I'm not sure considering it seems many here seem to think this is a tax increase


This thread is hysterical.

Bottom line is if your income stays the same, you’ll pay less in taxes in 2023 than you did in 2022.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
55477 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 3:36 pm to
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This thread is hysterical.

Bottom line is if your income stays the same, you’ll pay less in taxes in 2023 than you did in 2022.




That's not what the 2 charts state, at least for me personally.
This post was edited on 10/19/22 at 3:37 pm
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
20994 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 3:37 pm to
So all of OT is 37%
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