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re: Tangipahoa Parish rape victim ordered to pay her abuser child support

Posted on 6/18/22 at 4:53 pm to
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
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Posted on 6/18/22 at 4:53 pm to
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No one of put this much effort into it without being an immediate family member.



That is why I may not taking everything the news and the mother is saying on face value, I am not going to shite on the guy either. This is a bad situation and if everything happened like is being presented if he is family or friend I understand his anger. Either way I hope they get to the truth about everything. Barnes, the mother and the fricked up job the legal system appears to have done.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 6/18/22 at 4:56 pm to
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Where do you live? You are certainly taking a very personal level of interest in this.


Houston, currently

Like I said, if not for the regular gaslighting and personal attacks directly at me by what seems like people with a dog on Barnes side, or those with a grudge from getting worked up earlier in the thread an being wrong and unable to let it go, you probably wouldn’t see me nearly as much.

But with the frequency people keep spreading misinformation, or making attacks, I’m sort of just leaving a browser tab open at this point and periodically checking and responding as I get on or off to do some project work.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
49661 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 4:57 pm to
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I feel like it’s only questionable if you are looking for a reason to question.

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Who can perform the exam?

Not every hospital or health facility has someone on staff that is specially trained to perform a sexual assault forensic exam and interact with recent survivors of sexual assault.



I have no idea that is why I asked. It just struck me as being odd. I am no doctor but common sense would tell me that the any attending doctor working the ER should be trained and qualified to perform that exam. Its not like North Oaks or St. Tammany are some backwoods hospitals.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 5:01 pm to
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attending doctor working the ER should be trained and qualified to perform that exam

Definitely not

It apparently requires specialty training in both trauma counseling and certain types of forensic examination that they don’t just pull some random ER or GP or NP in to do.
This post was edited on 6/18/22 at 5:04 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103923 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 5:04 pm to
Considering the backwoods bullshite associated with this case, I wouldn’t doubt that going to a very renowned center for this kind of this was done to ensure that the opposite side couldn’t call bullshite on the results.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 5:09 pm to
Still not sure it’s even their decision to make at that point, however,

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opposite side couldn’t call bull shite on the results.

Seems like the police may have just decided to lose the rape kit, and the judge, as he has done prior, ignored the evidence and made an ex parte judgment in Barnes favor and openly ignored that information.

July 15 hearing should be interesting…or maddening
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
49661 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 5:24 pm to
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Seems like the police may have just decided to lose the rape kit,


How can the police lose it when the medical facility does this?

Wouldn't the medical facility in New Orleans keep records and back up documents? In this case you are talking about a cover up that goes to the state level.
Posted by lildaddy86
Hammond
Member since May 2016
259 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 5:42 pm to
I’m really interested in how this case plays out but I’m to the point of not wanting to read any more of Bronc’s post. She repeats herself constantly and creates an argument when there doesn’t need to be one. She seems like the type that believes everything CNN tells the people. We should just listen to her and not question anything. Bronc, go hang out with your husband on this Saturday evening, reading your post are wearisome, and for that reason….I’m out.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 5:55 pm to
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How can the police lose it when the medical facility does this?

Wouldn't the medical facility in New Orleans keep records and back up documents? In this case you are talking about a cover up that goes to the state level.

TBC we don’t know what the status is of the rape kit. Because the police, as they have done for 7 years, are not responding or being cooperative with the family according to the family statements.


But yeah, they have records, but the rape kit is transferred to the relative jurisdictional police department afterwards from what was reported and held in evidence, which is either Ponchatoula PD or Tang. But as the person that seems to be familiar with the process said earlier in this thread, what happens if the police lose it or it gets tampered with(not an uncommon thing due to incompetence), not sure.

I don’t think there is any high level conspiracy going on. Maybe more low level corruption on behalf of a connected man with police connections, but nothing to suggest beyond that imo.
This post was edited on 6/18/22 at 6:00 pm
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 5:58 pm to
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I’m really interested in how this case plays out but I’m to the point of not wanting to read any more of Bronc’s post. She repeats herself constantly and creates an argument when there doesn’t need to be one. She seems like the type that believes everything CNN tells the people. We should just listen to her and not question anything. Bronc, go hang out with your husband on this Saturday evening, reading your post are wearisome, and for that reason….I’m out.


1.) As far as I last checked, I have a dick and no scheduled gender surgery planned any time soon.

2.) if people quote me and go after me im gonna respond, kinda like you are doing

3.) if that triggers you there are a couple solutions: stop trying to constantly personally attack me when you know I’ll respond, scroll past, grow a pair of nuts and quit whining
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1933 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 6:23 pm to
I have a few questions, and pardon if this has already been discussed.

1.) Who thought he was the father of this baby? This girl did not exist in a vacuum and had a family of some sort. She admitted she allowed them to think it was the boyfriend's baby. So did this boy just never come around? Think he had paternity for 5 years and then boom?

2.) How did Barnes find out about the baby? It's interesting he didn't at least know she was pregnant, considering they had close mutual friends. Hammond/Ponchatoula is a small area with very close knit groups. Kind of a one degree of separation type of place.

Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 6:32 pm to
Barnes was friends with Crysta’s friends brother. That’s how they all met at the bar. Barnes remained friends with that brother and she had reason to believe he knew of the pregnancy.

As to the boyfriend, who knows. She has stated that the boyfriend at the time wanted to be the father and didn’t want to know otherwise(she probably didn’t want to know either). Clearly they didn’t work out cause she is reportedly married to someone else and they have their own kids together.

As for how he found out, or started to suspect, she claims she never sought him out at any point and she’s still unclear how he became aware and what motivated him to suddenly try and take her away. But it reasons to believe Barnes knew she was pregnant from right around their interaction. Since one of her statements indicates she wanted to avoid that bar cause Barnes was frequently there.
This post was edited on 6/18/22 at 6:34 pm
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
49661 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 7:42 pm to
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1.) Who thought he was the father of this baby? This girl did not exist in a vacuum and had a family of some sort. She admitted she allowed them to think it was the boyfriend's baby. So did this boy just never come around? Think he had paternity for 5 years and then boom?


I don't know but what was in the different news reports. Apparently the boy wanted to be the father but wasn't the father. I guess at some point a DNA test was done where it was discovered he wasn't.

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2.) How did Barnes find out about the baby? It's interesting he didn't at least know she was pregnant, considering they had close mutual friends. Hammond/Ponchatoula is a small area with very close knit groups. Kind of a one degree of separation type of place.




I haven't seen it said anywhere that he didn't know she was pregnant. Yes Ponchatoula is a small community everyone knows everyone and knows their business. I am sure Barnes knew but it sounds like everyone assumed the kid belonged to the BF. As like in most small towns rumors fly. I would bet at some point Barnes got wind that the baby wasn't the Bf's so I guess that is when he went to checking to see if he was the father.
This post was edited on 6/18/22 at 7:43 pm
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
32062 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 8:27 pm to
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I haven't seen it said anywhere that he didn't know she was pregnant. Yes Ponchatoula is a small community everyone knows everyone and knows their business. I am sure Barnes knew but it sounds like everyone assumed the kid belonged to the BF. As like in most small towns rumors fly. I would bet at some point Barnes got wind that the baby wasn't the Bf's so I guess that is when he went to checking to see if he was the father.
So the boyfriend wanted to be the father and she let everyone believe he was the father, did she ever marry the boyfriend? Did the boyfriend raise the girl as his until Barnes somehow entered the picture?
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 8:40 pm to
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You go look for it since you are the one that apparently knows everything and people who have seen and heard this info first hand know nothing


I’ve looked, there is nothing

So either you are lying again, or this is your opportunity to “own” the guy not buying your “Barnes is a super great guy despite all the rape and the mother is a lying whore routine”
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6963 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 8:41 pm to
CypressTrout coming in with the other side of the story. Judges rulings Makes sense if true.
Posted by DomincDecoco
RIP Ronnie fights Thoth’s loafers
Member since Oct 2018
11932 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 8:48 pm to
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“Lost custody over a cell phone and then was forced to pay child support…” well, let’s look at that statement.

Because the father had provided a cell phone for the last five years prior to this with age appropriate parental controls without social media and it was monitored as a parent should. Both parents communicated freely with the child on that phone for years that the father paid for. Mom was providing ghost phones to this child that had multiple social media apps/profiles belonging to the minor child.

Furthermore, the mother went on to coerce and enable the child to hide it from Dad. In fact, mom actually punished her one weekend when the dad found one of the phones bc in mom’s words “you know it was never supposed to leave this house.” Dad found the phones. All three of them.

Wait! The mother provided a ghost phone to hide from dad, coaches the child to hide it, then punished her when Dad found it at his house? Yep. They would not give the codes to the dad even after being ordered by the judge to do so. So she was held in contempt. However, dad was eventually able to get into the phones and was able to see what the daughter was being allowed to do when she was in the custody of the mother every other week.

From the unsealed documents it was proven the daughter was being allowed to do the same things the mother was doing at the same age!!! Not only be allowed to do, but actually supported by the mother and the mother fostered that behavior with the 18 year old male the child was in a relationship with unknown to Dad that mother was hiding from the dad. The relationship that the mother was fostering and coercing/coaching both the 15 and 18 year old to hide because if Dad found out he would get the 18 year old in trouble. Adult things a 15 year old should not be doing!!

She was being allowed to live a party lifestyle, one some adults would be envious of, and run the show in her mother’s home. However, in Dad’s home there was structure, discipline, age appropriate responsibilities, accountability, and a standard of expectations appropriate to a 15 year old child. The child didn’t run the show nor was she living a partying lifestyle. The dad is not a Dad that chooses to raise his child through a cell and social media like so many other parents do. In short, Dad shut down the party lifestyle!

Now after court hearings the mother was found to be unfit, the judge also found the child was suffering from irreparable harm as a direct result of the mother’s absent parenting and absence of moral fitness. So the judge made his judgment with the best interest of the child at stake. Hence how we got here. It’s never the “victim’s” fault right?

Oh and by the way, the child support was ordered years ago before custody was taken away. It was ordered because when Dad was originally paying it to her for several years it was proven that the child was not receiving the support. Instead the Dad went back to court and actually asked the court to make him 100% responsible for the support so he knew for a fact his daughter would not go without and make the mother reimburse the dad of her obligated portion within two months after receiving a receipt.

She was only ordered to pay the $117/month to cover her obligation of the medical/dental/vision insurance the Dad had on the child. The Mother’s obligation was less than 20% of the total monthly cost for healthcare benefits. When she refused to pay it after 18 months it was remanded to the state child support enforcement to garnish her wages.

However, but she had no issues using the same insurance to rack up $20k in fraudulent claims against the Dads insurance company for recent allegations she orchestrated against the Dad back in February 23 that were found to be false.

Oh and then there’s a 32 page google doc that was found on the school issued chromebook where the mother was coaching her daughter how to act when she accused the dad of rape. Like “when he hugs you step away and cringe”


you still raped that girl bruh...:quit acting like you above it "wit ya tangi connections!"
Posted by jgthunt
Walker
Member since Feb 2010
2665 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 8:50 pm to
Worked at North Oaks ER from 2008-2020. When I left, we had a few SANE nurses that would do the kits then we had to lock them up until law enforcement picked up and would sign to get them. That being said, any person 17 or under had to be transferred to OLOL or CHNOLA for pediatric forensic exam. ER MD can do the kit with help of a nurse if a SANE nurse isn't available.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
49661 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 9:04 pm to
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So the boyfriend wanted to be the father and she let everyone believe he was the father,


she said that in a interview

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did she ever marry the boyfriend? Did the boyfriend raise the girl as his until Barnes somehow entered the picture?

no clue
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
49661 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 9:06 pm to
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CypressTrout coming in with the other side of the story. Judges rulings Makes sense if true.



Yes it does

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