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re: T OR F? Narcan was the worst thing for society in a long time

Posted on 9/24/19 at 9:35 am to
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
58762 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 9:35 am to
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Am I to feel bad for those that decided to get addicted?


You can feel however you want towards them, that's your opinion. But to call a drug that saves peoples lives everyday the worst thing for society in a long time is ridiculous.
Posted by Bedhog
Denham Springs
Member since Apr 2019
3741 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 9:36 am to
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Why'd you get all 3 filled
because it was called in by my doctors and dentists along with my antibiotics and was only like $3.00 with my insurance.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
15904 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 9:37 am to
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ETA- mostly the bellyaching about how it’s the doctors and drug manufacturers fault



While not totally their fault manufacturers and some doctors don't have clean hands in all of this.
Posted by tigernurse
Member since Dec 2005
36162 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 9:38 am to
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They all say Narcan was the worst thing to enter our society.


I disagree. I can think of far worse things to enter our society. #bamafans (kidding)

quote:

Junkies won't learn from being saved form overdoses. They use Narcan as an excuse to try more drugs without fear of dying.



I have volunteered with a women's rehab/homeless shelter for the past 5 years. This is simply not true. It is, however, a common thought process for healthcare workers who simply have not served this community outside of the building they are employed in. I even held this belief for some time before I began to volunteer with the recovering addicts.

I will tell you this, the addicts that I have met on their recovery journey, are THE MOST sincere, honest, and LOYAL people I have ever met. They are grateful for their lives and they put in the work each day to encourage others to obtain/maintain their own sobriety.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
87744 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 9:39 am to
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Why'd you get all 3 filled


quote:

because it was called in by my doctors and dentists along with my antibiotics and was only like $3.00 with my insurance.


when was this? docs can't call in those scrips where I live, and haven't been able to for some time
Posted by Bedhog
Denham Springs
Member since Apr 2019
3741 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 9:39 am to
you said get mad at opiods not the Narcan.

Looks like we could go around and around with this all day.

In my opinion, and many in the medical field also feel,these people aren't sick. Drug abuse isn't a disease. It's something they chose to do. Narcan just prolongs the inevitable. Kind of like paying to house someone on death row for decades.
Posted by Bedhog
Denham Springs
Member since Apr 2019
3741 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 9:40 am to
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when was this? docs can't call in those scrips where I live, and haven't been able to for some time

before 2016 I believe. Don't have the bottles in front of me right now.
Posted by LSUtwolves
Member since Jun 2016
1090 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 9:43 am to
No one has ever felt great from narcan. It blocks your high completely and pushes you straight into withdrawals.

OP was likely referencing suboxone, which is a antagonist/agonist, so it keeps you on a level high.

And the majority of healthcare professionals do not hate narcan. That's just plain stupid.
Posted by Bedhog
Denham Springs
Member since Apr 2019
3741 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 9:45 am to
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P was likely referencing suboxone
i was told Narcan. Is Suboxone administered or taken voluntarily?
Posted by whoisnickdoobs
Lafayette
Member since Apr 2012
9352 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 9:45 am to
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I will tell you this, the addicts that I have met on their recovery journey, are THE MOST sincere, honest, and LOYAL people I have ever met. They are grateful for their lives and they put in the work each day to encourage others to obtain/maintain their own sobriety.


Works both ways. Plenty of innocent lives have been lost to junkies trying to get their next fix. You don't have to work in healthcare to know that. I'm not saying it's the worst thing for society, but lets not pretend it's not a double edged sword.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
87744 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 9:46 am to
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before 2016 I believe. Don't have the bottles in front of me right now.

okay, can't confirm this but I heard recently, second hand, that having opioids in your possession, even though prescribed to you, in the form of an out of date scrip is a drug crime, guy at work who claims his fil is a DEA narc told him that


I wouldn't get rid of them though, never know when you might need one
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
98713 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 9:46 am to
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I would estimate around 20 if not more



You know 20 junkies?

I don’t think I would tell people that.

I didn’t know what Narcan was before opening this thread
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
13496 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 9:47 am to
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it pisses people off to receive Narcan because they can't get high for a while

Can we inject them with a long acting version of Narcan? Say 30 days or longer?
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
26018 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 9:48 am to
Wish they got it to my sister in time, I know that. It was two years in May
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 9:48 am to
Honestly just confirms my belief that "health care professionals" (I only remove the quotes for actual physicians, dentists, and podiatrists) are a bunch of arrogant pricks.

Most of them will admit off the record that they prefer to prescribe the opiates that are mixed with acetaminophen because if you take too much it shuts down your liver.

"Do no harm" my arse.
Posted by LSUtwolves
Member since Jun 2016
1090 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 9:48 am to
well you said people are "feeling great on narcan." So I was giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming you meant another drug.

If you meant narcan, then that is the dumbest shite I've ever heard. It doesn't make you feel great at all.

And healthcare professionals that hate narcan should find a different line of work, being that it's a drug responsible for saving countless lives, which is the main reason to be involved in healthcare.

There should be no judgement of a patient. We are at the hospital to help people, not judge if someone deserves to be saved or not.

GFY

Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
11905 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 9:49 am to
that dude is ripped for a junkie lol
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
88411 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 9:49 am to
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Saved my brother's life.....twice.
Is he clean now?
Posted by Bedhog
Denham Springs
Member since Apr 2019
3741 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 9:51 am to
shidd. I'm flushing them.
Posted by tigernurse
Member since Dec 2005
36162 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 9:51 am to
quote:

Science and medicine just proves Nancy Reagan right, over and over.

1. Stay off the dope,

2. Stay in school,

and you'll probably be alright.


But there's also this science that proves it just isn't that simple.

Science that proves otherwise.

more science
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