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Sweden’s “mayor from jaws” strategy starting to be questioned as death tolls mount
Posted on 4/3/20 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 4/3/20 at 3:27 pm
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STOCKHOLM (Reuters) - A spike in novel coronavirus infections and deaths in Stockholm has raised questions about Sweden's decision to fight the outbreak without resorting to the lockdowns that have left much of Europe at a standstill.
Yet Swedes are able to go to restaurants, get a haircut and send their children to school even as the number of confirmed cases and deaths have mounted, above all in Stockholm which accounts for more than half the fatalities.
An analysis of smartphone location data showed that while visits to public places has fallen steeply in most European countries, Sweden is bucking the trend.
But Sweden's liberal approach, which aims to minimise disruption to social and economic life, is coming under fire as the epidemic spreads in the capital.
"We don't have a choice, we have to close Stockholm right now," Cecilia Soderberg-Naucler, Professor of Microbial Pathogenesis at the Karolinska Institute, told Reuters.
She is one of around 2,300 academics who signed an open letter to the government at the end of last month calling for tougher measures to protect the healthcare system.
"We must establish control over the situation, we cannot head in to a situation where we get complete chaos. No one has tried this route, so why should we test it first in Sweden, without informed consent?" she said.
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Posted on 4/3/20 at 3:30 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Gatherings of more than 50 people have been banned, high schools and universities have moved teaching online and people have been told not to take unnecessary trips, all quite low-key measures in a European context.
They are still doing something, just not as much.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 3:35 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Will be interesting when it's all said and done how their death toll compares to other nations of similar size and demographic.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 3:38 pm to Odysseus32
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Will be interesting when it's all said and done how their death toll compares to other nations of similar size and demographic.
Unfortunately I doubt we get the opportunity. Just like UK, I think Sweden probably folds to pressure to lock down tighter. At the point of it "blowing up" I'd bet they are very close to getting over the hump, and that's just when everyone will quit and isolate.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 3:45 pm to Odysseus32
Right now they're at 35 deaths per million population. It's a little higher than the US (21). Even if the US was at that same rate, that would be ~4900 more deaths.
They're still lower than quite a few European countries. Like the other post says, it'd be a shame for them to bend to pressure and shut things down right as they're getting to the peak.
They're still lower than quite a few European countries. Like the other post says, it'd be a shame for them to bend to pressure and shut things down right as they're getting to the peak.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 3:45 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Unless these "academics" are willing to forgo pay, I don't give a shite what they say.
If they truly believe it, they would be willing to.
If they truly believe it, they would be willing to.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 3:47 pm to ldts
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35 per million vs US at 21/million
Plus, they likely have had more infected since not distancing like us.
Likely end up better?
Posted on 4/3/20 at 3:51 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I hope they stick it out and don't succumb to pressure.
It would be quite beneficial as a case study, at the least.
It would be quite beneficial as a case study, at the least.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 3:54 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
If I was in Sweden... I'd be quarenteening in place and fricking her and her truly blond vagina cross-eyed....
Posted on 4/3/20 at 3:58 pm to Privateer 2007
Yeah the “ostrich head in the sand” strategy used by many (about 1/3 on the rant) rarely ever works, buts it a lot easier than being prepared, making hard choices etc
Posted on 4/3/20 at 4:01 pm to baldona
They are the Bill DeBlasio/Nancy Pelosi/Andrew Cuomo of Europe.
Seems like I read somewhere that Sweden is the type of socialism America needs.
Or maybe they "weather the storm" by not having a fried chicken/hamburger restaurant on every corner.
Seems like I read somewhere that Sweden is the type of socialism America needs.
Or maybe they "weather the storm" by not having a fried chicken/hamburger restaurant on every corner.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 4:02 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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But Sweden's liberal approach, which aims to minimise disruption to social and economic life, is coming under fire as the epidemic spreads in the capital.
Well Sweden's liberals and America's conservatives should sit down and give each other hand jobs over this shite. They both want the same frickin' thing.
This post was edited on 4/3/20 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 4/3/20 at 4:04 pm to Privateer 2007
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Plus, they likely have had more infected since not distancing like us.
Unlike dumbfrick Americans, most swedes have been taking things seriously and have been voluntarily quarantining and social distancing. Most kids have been taken out of schools despite them being open, and most businesses have either closed or moved to remote work.
Their whole strategy is that their populace will actually listen to the experts saying that this shite is serious.
Americans on the other hand hear an experts advice and 75% respond with some form of "YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME!!!"
Posted on 4/3/20 at 4:06 pm to Pandy Fackler
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Well Sweden's liberals and America's conservatives should sit down and give each other hand jobs over this shite. They both want the same frickin' thing.
Well..... As long as they're hot (and female...). They can't say much with my cack in their mouth....
Posted on 4/3/20 at 4:09 pm to TutHillTiger
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Yeah the “ostrich head in the sand” strategy used by many (about 1/3 on the rant) rarely ever works, buts it a lot easier than being prepared, making hard choices etc
I'll stick my "ostrich head" wherever it's invited....
Posted on 4/3/20 at 4:20 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Sweden has one of the higher testing rates in the World and their nCFR is 5.5%. Britain abandoned their Herd Immunity strategy, probably too late, and now have a nCFR of 9.4%.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 5:01 pm to justsaygeaux2
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Well..... As long as they're hot (and female...). They can't say much with my cack in their mouth....
Most people can talk fine with a toothpick in their mouth.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 5:08 pm to Obtuse1
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Most people can talk fine with a toothpick in their mouth.
Oh, you've sucked my cack? lol
Posted on 4/3/20 at 5:12 pm to justsaygeaux2
It's cock. With an o. Dumbass.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 5:16 pm to justsaygeaux2
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Oh, you've sucked my cack? lol
No, your ol' lady was telling me about it when I was railing her last week.
Plus how sad do you have to be to not be able to type cock.
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