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re: SW LA getting rocked by severe storms this morning.

Posted on 5/18/21 at 11:28 am to
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
13455 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 11:28 am to
quote:

The 100yr design storm is 12.6" over 24hrs


Got 12.56" at plant.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175379 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 11:30 am to
Don’t wanna be that guy (who am I kidding yes I do) but ya boy was the first to point out in here the difference in last night and 2016 and why the flooding was different.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
58760 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 11:34 am to
Here’s some internet points for stating the obvious
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175379 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 11:35 am to
So obvious no one else said it then 20 people said it after that.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71037 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 11:36 am to
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Don’t wanna be that guy (who am I kidding yes I do) but ya boy was the first to point out in here the difference in last night and 2016 and why the flooding was different.


Yep. You did.

Last night was a great example of the difference between flooding and flash flooding. They both frick shite up, but at least one doesn't hang around. It also is a good reminder to pay attention to those Flash Flood Warnings, particularly if you are doing anything that involves driving somewhere.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71037 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 11:38 am to
quote:

Here’s some internet points for stating the obvious

It didn't start getting discussed until people started worrying and comparing it to 2016. It needed to be addressed last night.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175379 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 11:40 am to
There's a fella here who's still remodeling his house from 2016. I bet he was pissed/pissing his pants last night as Jones Creek got 2.5 feet within 2016 level.

Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71037 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 11:42 am to
Lake Chuck is just a few miles from having another mess. Hopefully, all that shite stays offshore.
Posted by When in Rome
Telegraph Road
Member since Jan 2011
36146 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 11:42 am to
My friend’s parents remodeled their house from 2016 and were out of their house for a long time. They got water in their house again from this event. I think if I had to redo floors and/or drywall from this after the 2016 remodel I would be out of there after that. I feel so bad for them.

ETA they are in Prairieville
This post was edited on 5/18/21 at 11:44 am
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71037 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 11:45 am to
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The Boat

You should check out the Chaser Chat podcast. I know I've mentioned it before, but any of the episodes with Jeff Frame are damn good and worth the time. The interview episodes are good, too, but the educational stuff is with Jeff.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
132934 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 11:46 am to
Oooooooh, oriental massage
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175379 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 11:47 am to
Thanks I'm gonna check it out. No weather school for 3 months so I'll need something to tickle my brain.
Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
6381 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 11:49 am to
This has been my point forever. There is little to no recorded weather data for North America and South America prior to 1800. At best we have 200 years of data, with 150 or so at most being “reliable”. As a result , anytime you hear “1000 year event “ or “500 year event ”, it should be taken with a grain of salt. This includes temperatures. We really have no clue from a statistical standpoint what sort of weather events occurred prior to 1800, let alone their severity. Everything is extrapolated from 150 years worth of data. That’s like basing a QB or RB’s career average upon Week 1 performance data. It’s illogical and irresponsible to advise the public that anything is a 500/1000 year event. Better off comparing it to a known record : built to Katrina flood height;built to 1983 or 2016 flood height, etc.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71037 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 11:49 am to
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My friend’s parents remodeled their house from 2016 and were out of their house for a long time. They got water in their house again from this event. I think if I had to redo floors and/or drywall from this after the 2016 remodel I would be out of there after that. I feel so bad for them.

I had a friend who had a house fire that caused heavy smoke damage. It basically had to be gutted. That was right around October of 2010. He was able to start moving back in on April 26, 2011. The very next day, with a trailer full of his stuff parked in the garage, a tornado basically split his house in half.

He rebuilt and promptly sold the place. He was done.
Posted by Fatty Magoo
USA
Member since Nov 2015
1029 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 12:16 pm to
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anytime you hear “1000 year event “ or “500 year event ”, it should be taken with a grain of salt


That is demonstrably false. A google search of "500 year event" and clicking on literally the first link would have prevented you from saying something so silly.

Phrases like "1000 year event" or "500 year event" are meant so that idiots like yourself can understand the implications of statistics. And, undoubtedly, also to sell newspapers. "500 year event" simply means that is has a 0.2%, aka 1 in 500, chance of happening... Someone turned that phrase into calling it a "500 year event" but under no circumstance does that mean that it only happens once every 500 years.

It does NOT under any circumstances mean that it can only happen once every 500 years. That's just the way statistics works. The chances of winning the Megamillions jackpot are 1 in 302,575,350. Do you think that means the one person that won bought 302,575,349 losing tickets?

ETA:

quote:

The 1-percent AEP flood has a 1-percent chance of occurring in any given year; however, during the span of a 30-year mortgage, a home in the 1-percent AEP (100-year) floodplain has a 26-percent chance of being flooded at least once during those 30 years! The value of 26-percent is based on probability theory that accounts for each of the 30 years having a 1-percent chance of flooding.


This post was edited on 5/18/21 at 12:22 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71037 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 12:20 pm to
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Fatty Magoo

You're wasting your time. This "debate" comes around every time there is flooding.
Posted by NorthEndZone
Member since Dec 2008
13708 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 12:29 pm to
This is old news by now but the guage near Bluebonnet and Perkins (Perkins Rowe area) set an all-time record of 22.96 feet. This slightly exceeded the previous mark from (I believe) TS Allison in 2001 and was almost 3 feet higher than 2016 at that location.

Historic Crests
(1) 22.79 ft on 06/07/2001
(2) 20.58 ft on 05/12/2004
(3) 20.25 ft on 06/18/1997
(4) 20.16 ft on 12/30/2006
(5) 20.06 ft on 08/15/2016

Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 12:32 pm to
It’s hilarious.
Posted by bigberg2000
houston, from chalmette
Member since Sep 2005
70542 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 12:42 pm to
Tomorrow through Thursday should be interesting in the Houston area. Here in Kingwood we had some street flooding yesterday but nothing major. They expect some local totals to be over 15 inches, with some bullseye spots over 20. Solid break from it today though.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71037 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

Tomorrow through Thursday should be interesting in the Houston area. Here in Kingwood we had some street flooding yesterday but nothing major. They expect some local totals to be over 15 inches, with some bullseye spots over 20. Solid break from it today though.


Models are looking like it will be coming in rounds. Hopefully, that gives things enough time to drain, but there will be problems in areas.
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