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re: Surprised at the cost of dogs

Posted on 8/26/24 at 10:43 am to
Posted by Park duck
Sip
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 8/26/24 at 10:43 am to
Folks that pay for a mutt are crazy. Mutt = silver lab, golden doodle, labradoodle etc etc etc
Posted by Tigers0891
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2017
6953 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 10:57 am to
Shoutout to Big Lake Goldens in Farmerville.

Got a golden there at a good price relative to the breeds normal cost. They all seem to be healthy and the owner is a really nice guy. They are definitely leaner more athletic goldens and on the hyper end compared to others I have been around but still super gentle and sweet dogs. But yea dogs are crazy expensive and I wouldn’t get a shelter mutt either.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
11110 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 11:00 am to
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It’s a big expense up front but you definitely get what you pay for. We messed up and got a shelter dog last time. Never again. Just bite the bullet and buy a good one.


I have a pure bred dog that when she is with our family (and extended family) she is the sweetest thing you ever met. If anyone she doesn't know tries to pet her, she will nip at them. She was bred by my neighbor and I got to watch her with her litter for a few months before bringing her home and she was by far the sweetest and most personable puppy in the lot. We exposed her to all sorts of people and places as a puppy and she was sweet to everyone until she was about a year old. My son who was 5 at the time had a friend over that tried to ride her like a horse and she hasn't trusted strangers since. She also has a predisposition to dislike my sons friends in general now.

Meaning that dogs have personalities and its a little bit of luck to get one with a good personality. You can increase your chances by picking certain breeds but I have also met some psycho Labs before so nothing is a sure thing. And you also can't always control how they react to trauma. My dogs trauma was fairly light but its all it took for her to switch to distrusting new people.
Posted by caro81
Member since Jul 2017
5647 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 11:33 am to
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We messed up and got a shelter dog last time


this is an extremely poor take and shouldnt be listened to.

i wont shite on your for wanting to pay money for a purebred animal from good stock but there are plenty of great dogs in shelters needing homes.

Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45764 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 11:54 am to
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We messed up and got a shelter dog last time



this is an extremely poor take and shouldnt be listened to.

i wont shite on your for wanting to pay money for a purebred animal from good stock but there are plenty of great dogs in shelters needing homes.



Everybody has different experiences. Both options have positives and negatives.

However it is undeniable that you are more likely to have issues with shelter dogs than a purebred from a reputable breeder.
Posted by Traffic Circle
Down the Rabbit Hole
Member since Nov 2013
4648 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 11:56 am to
Confucius say inflation hit food prices very hard.
Posted by SwampGar
Texas
Member since Jan 2020
1379 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 11:57 am to
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We messed up and got a shelter dog last time. Never again. Just bite the bullet and buy a good one.


This is rather small-minded.

Someone found ours as a stray in a field, mutt across the board. She came with built in recall, intelligence, not a barker and well tempered.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68974 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 11:57 am to
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No reason why breeders can’t make a few bucks.


Don't disagree
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Raising newborn pups is a lot of work and expense.

It costs a couple grand for a litter of puppies until they're 8 weeks old and go to a new owner. If you have 10 puppies and charge $2000 each, you're turning a profit of 18 grand for 7-8 weeks of work. Sure, it's a lot of work but not $18 grand worth of work.

For your run-of-the-mill family pets, it has gotten absurd. I have two pure breed and pedigreed golden retrievers. The first we paid $750 for in 2014. The second we got from someone we knew. They only charged us their costs, so around $400. It's nearly impossible to find a golden retriever now for under $1800, and you can spend upwards of $4000

Unless the dogs are bred to hunt or show, or something of that nature, then needing to spend several grand for a dog is ridiculous
This post was edited on 8/26/24 at 11:59 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104488 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 11:59 am to
Can shelter pets be great, of course. But it takes mental gymnastics to not accept the fact it’s more of an unknown risk with what you will get

If you wanted to try and find a fast human baby, you would look for two fast parents. It betters your odds

Dogs are no different

Limiting the variables gives you better odds, always
This post was edited on 8/26/24 at 12:00 pm
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45764 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 12:00 pm to
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It costs a couple grand for a litter of puppies until they're 8 weeks old and go to a new owner. If you have 10 puppies and charge $2000 each, you're turning a profit of 18 grand for 7-8 weeks of work. Sure, it's a lot of work but not $18 grand worth of work.


No tell me how much the semen costs, insemination costs, vet visits/x-rays of litter, having the babies, possible c-section, breaches, etc.

Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
2286 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 12:02 pm to
Get a pig.
Posted by Falco
Member since Dec 2018
2096 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 12:02 pm to
I tried going the adoption route. Filled out the paper work, they did a phone interview and asked about spay/neuter and I believe my answers were not what they wanted. They also asked what I would do if my dog had a 5k or more emergency and how would I pay for it. I answered for 5k or more I may have to put the dog down which didn't go over well with the person on the phone.

I have dogs now and it runs 300-500 a year for vet, another 80 a month for medicine, another 75 a month for speciality dog food. That's normal, paying 5k+ for an emergency, like what kind of vet visit is going to run that much. Keeping my dog over the weekend at Cypress Animal Hospital in Ascension was only 1600. So I'm struggling to know exactly what would cost 5k or more that wouldn't impact quality of life.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104488 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 12:04 pm to
There are a ton of people that will take on credit card debt to pay for dogs medical bills and such even when they have kids of their own

It’s wild to me but it’s their money and life
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68974 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 12:13 pm to
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No tell me how much the semen costs, insemination costs, vet visits/x-rays of litter, having the babies, possible c-section, breaches, etc.

Most breeders aren't doing all of those things.

Even for a top level dog, a stud fee isn't going to be more than a grand and more likely under $500 for most dogs. They're dogs, not thoroughbred horses. Artificial insemination is ~$125 at the vet. C section is going to run a couple grand. So, assuming a breeder does all of these things, they're still pocketing upwards of $15000 for 2 months of work. And most of these breeders do it as secondary income. My BIL and aunt have both bred dogs, my BIL bird digs and my aunt agility competition dogs. Breedings dogs is not how they pay the bills.
This post was edited on 8/26/24 at 12:16 pm
Posted by AscensionTiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jun 2004
4202 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 12:14 pm to
I have a labradoodle and goldendoodle, we got both for free. People buy them because they are popular but then don't want the responsibility of taking care of them. Both are great dogs, the Golden was abused, so now that's she's comfortable with us, she's the most loyal dog I've ever had.
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45764 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 12:20 pm to
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So I'm struggling to know exactly what would cost 5k or more that wouldn't impact quality of life.


Here are a few common examples:

Torn ACL on an overweight dogs (most dogs are overweight)
Foreign body/Obstruction- your dog eats something it shouldnt
Severe pancreatitis- your dog eats something it shouldnt
HBC
Dog attack
Heat exhaustion
Respiratory failure
Bloat- not preventable unless you do a gastopexy

Some more severe than others. Just about all of these dogs can survive if caught and treated in a timely manner. All will run you a couple thousand minimum at any emergency vet
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31192 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 12:37 pm to
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Where I currently live, any dog that isn't a pit-bull is almost immediately scooped up by someone.
Our family has always donated to the shelters, mainly food and supplies. It's unbelievable the amount of pit's and pit mixes that populate the shelters. Entire litters get dropped off on the shelter steps.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
95782 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 1:18 pm to
In Portland every dog seems to be some ugly deformed rescue with behavioural issues.

I get so happy when I see an attractive purebred or designed breed nowadays.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22489 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 2:02 pm to
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Even for a top level dog, a stud fee isn't going to be more than a grand and more likely under $500 for most dogs. They're dogs, not thoroughbred horses.


I’ve helped some friends and families with puppies, the ole way was the stud’s parents got first pick of the litter. My parents had a litter of 13 puppies, crazy to think that could have been worth $30k. lol. Do that 2-3 times a year and that’s a hell of a side hustle
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
1160 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 2:05 pm to
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Folks that pay for a mutt are crazy. Mutt = silver lab, golden doodle, labradoodle etc etc etc


Uhhhh....all dogs are mutts
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