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re: Surprise collapse of $800 MIL grain facility draws activists' praise, Landry's criticism

Posted on 8/8/24 at 6:45 am to
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39889 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 6:45 am to
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John Cummings funding the Banner sisters' opposition.


Is he doing it because of this:

A retired lawyer opens first US slavery museum with $8.6 million of his money

https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Making-a-difference/2016/0324/A-retired-lawyer-opens-first-US-slavery-museum-with-8.6-million-of-his-money
Posted by White Bear
Deer-Thirty
Member since Jul 2014
17277 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 6:48 am to
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They are impacting wetlands. You have to get the blessing from at least 7 agencies addressing environmental concerns and all sorts of other crap. NOAA is even involved and soon the new European regulations.
Ah, the American dream.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39889 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 6:52 am to
If they would have formed a minority owned subsidiary and had that company apply, the government incentives would have paid for most of it with no permitting issues.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
45175 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 6:57 am to
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Place a plant in a 90%+ Black town, and it is extremely hard to pass permitting.

How this isn't racist is beyond me. It's incredibly racist against white people.
You’re going to have to explain how a town that is 90%+ black not wanting a plant in their town is incredibly racist against white people. Start at around 2nd grade level logic.
Posted by Gorilla Ball
Az
Member since Feb 2006
12884 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 6:59 am to
I worked at a grain elevator just out of college and it’s just the grain dust
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
4703 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 7:00 am to
Wonder where they are considering putting it now? If they saw enough demand to invest nearly a billion dollars you'd think they would be looking elsewhere too.

They can come to my hood. I'm not worried about grain dust or being disenfranchised.
Posted by Gorilla Ball
Az
Member since Feb 2006
12884 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 7:01 am to
Explosions occur because of a confined space with grain dust and a spark.
Do you realize that cargill has 2 large grain elevators, Zenoh grain has another one with no such incidents??
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24867 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 7:10 am to
Stupid liberal counts.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12695 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 7:13 am to
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Wonder where they are considering putting it now? If they saw enough demand to invest nearly a billion dollars you'd think they would be looking elsewhere too.

Maybe, maybe not. Financial outlook can change a lot in 3 years. Especially when you consider the additional time it would take to get back to the point where this battle started.
Posted by Duckhammer_77
TD Platinum member
Member since Nov 2016
3023 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 7:27 am to
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permit from the CO

You have to get a permit from USACE to build anything with a foundation 1500 ft from levee centerline. When the river rises past a certain point, the levee police shuts down the construction until river goes down. Go ask Ochsner how their construction projects are working out along Jeff Hwy. And you've got a white house that can tell USACE to keep punting.

ETA: saw another post about environmental permits, wetlands etc. Good point. The oppositions lawyers were throwing every agency roadblock they could at them.
This post was edited on 8/8/24 at 11:05 am
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
11958 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 7:41 am to
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"We look forward to working with the community to heal, preserve, and build a healthy bright future together


What in the actual frick does this even mean? Heal from what? The trauma of someone thinking about building something? We live in a world of pussies.
Posted by Mark Makers
The LP
Member since Jul 2015
2398 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 7:45 am to
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Joy Banner, an activist leader who helped spearhead opposition to the project, said "we’ve fought for three long years to save the community, way of life, and heritage we love." Banner and her sister Jo Banner are co-founders of The Descendants Project, which has sought to preserve the legacy of slaves who worked the River Parishes' plantations.


The truth is that there were plenty of residents in the community in support of the project. Joy and Jo Banner brainwashed a few people into joining their cause, started a "non-profit" called the The Descendants Project, collected a shitload of out of state funding "for the cause". Most who have been following this know this was purely for their self-gain, so much so they were able to recently afford the purchase of Woodland Plantation Home. If you can't build an agricultural facility along one of the major port systems in this country, wtf can you build?

Similar situation happened a few years ago to Formosa Plastics. What are companies in the future going to think when they are considering investing along the Lower MS River when they see these stories that a handful of people were able to derail these projects after the companies had invested years of time and millions of dollars in planning, engineering, etc.?

I hate these people if you can't tell

ETA: Woodland Plantation, not Whitney
This post was edited on 8/8/24 at 8:51 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36844 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 7:51 am to
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I’m not sure how the locals would benefit. No guarantee jobs go to them. Any local or state tax revenue surely would be pissed away. Corporate profits go out of the area


yea im sure these types of developments never hire local people, never entice people to move to an area and Im sure no locals life ever improved due to economic development in an area

frick it.....why try and pursue economic development at all? according to you, no locals ever benefit and the taxes are just pissed away always. only the greedy owners benefit right?
Posted by Mark Makers
The LP
Member since Jul 2015
2398 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 7:53 am to
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The picture in the link is the ship getting the grain or dropping it off?


Crops are farmed farther inland and loaded out to barges or trains at smaller facilities where ships cannot access. The grain is barged or railed to the lower MS river (or other major port systems), offloaded and stored in these grain elevators. Then reloaded onto ships for exporting to other parts of the country/world.
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
12283 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 8:00 am to
Next time you hear black folks complaing about a lack of good jobs, bookmark this and go back to it
Posted by BgJag
United States
Member since Mar 2008
179 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 8:18 am to
They did not buy the Whitney Plantation, it was the Woodland.
Posted by Red12_Black4
Little Rock, AR
Member since Oct 2017
243 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 8:31 am to
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I’m not sure how the locals would benefit. No guarantee jobs go to them


I ran multiple river grain terminals in Louisiana for years. We only hired from the local area. All 12-15 employees either lived in town or the next town over. These were full time jobs with benefits.

Explosions do occur but they're very rare and like a previous poster said, they only happen at the facility in the confined space. Elevators have been running since the 60s that have never had a fire or explosion. The tech today to prevent these accidents is very efficient.

The company had plans to support the local high school with scholarships and start a local health clinic. Not sure if they really would have followed through but now we'll never know.

And now without this export facility the company is going to have to sell the inland facilities in North Louisiana/Southern Arkansas that would've originated the grain for export. Essentially it will cease to exist.

Posted by Limitlesstigers
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2019
3803 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 8:33 am to
Pollution?

I'm pretty sure rice and wheat are bio based products?
Posted by White Bear
Deer-Thirty
Member since Jul 2014
17277 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 8:36 am to
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And you've got a white house that can tell USACE to keep punting.
The Executive branch of government is completely out of control.
Posted by Mark Makers
The LP
Member since Jul 2015
2398 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 8:49 am to
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They did not buy the Whitney Plantation, it was the Woodland.


Whoops, mistyped, this is correct.
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