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Supreme Court review DA actions; white jury told "deter people in the projects"
Posted on 10/31/15 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 10/31/15 at 12:16 pm
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Not sure if it is illegal for the DA to do what he did or say what he said.
Not sure if it is illegal for the DA to do what he did or say what he said.
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WASHINGTON — Prosecutor Stephen Lanier's meaning was unmistakable when he urged jurors in north Georgia to sentence the defendant to death in part to deter other people "out there in the projects."
Almost everyone in the public housing apartments near the scene of the killing of a 79-year-old woman in Rome, Georgia, was black, as was defendant Timothy Tyrone Foster. And after Lanier got through picking a jury of Foster's peers, all the jurors were white. So was the victim.
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lawyers obtained the prosecution's notes that revealed prosecutors' focus on the black people in the jury pool. In one example, a handwritten note headed "Definite No's" listed six people, of whom five were the remaining black prospective jurors.
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The only issue before the justices on Monday deals with the way this particular jury was put together. Lanier, who did not respond to requests for an interview, has consistently denied any intent to discriminate, and the state argues in defending his actions that prosecutors actually wanted a black juror to avoid defense accusations that the jury was a "white lynch mob."
But Stephen Bright, a veteran death penalty lawyer who is representing Foster at the Supreme Court, said evidence of a racial motive is extensive and undeniable.
This post was edited on 10/31/15 at 1:23 pm
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Posted on 10/31/15 at 12:20 pm to LSUTANGERINE
Its the only defense they have now.
Posted on 10/31/15 at 12:23 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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evidence of a racial motive is extensive and undeniable.
I agree. Why do they have to have black people. Seems suspicious.
Posted on 10/31/15 at 12:25 pm to LSUTANGERINE
So you have judges that aren't okay with majority white juries when the defendant is black because it's not truly representative of his peers....
Now you have an all white jury for a white defendant, and it's racist....
Not surprising.
Now you have an all white jury for a white defendant, and it's racist....
Not surprising.
Posted on 10/31/15 at 12:29 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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White had the misfortune to use her bathroom in the middle of the night. Only when she returned to her bedroom and turned on the lamp beside her bed did she notice Foster in her living room, according to Foster's confession to police.
Foster said he was just out to rob White's home, but things got out of hand when she grabbed a knife and chased him around a living room chair. He picked up a fireplace log and hit White hard enough to break her jaw. Then he sexually molested her with a salad-dressing bottle and strangled her to death.
Posted on 10/31/15 at 12:30 pm to tigerpimpbot
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Foster said he was just out to rob White's home, but things got out of hand when she grabbed a knife and chased him around a living room chair. He picked up a fireplace log and hit White hard enough to break her jaw. Then he sexually molested her with a salad-dressing bottle and strangled her to death.
Too bad she didnt stab him to death.
Posted on 10/31/15 at 12:31 pm to dcrews
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Now you have an all white jury for a white defendant, and it's racist.... Not surprising
VICTIM was white
This post was edited on 10/31/15 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 10/31/15 at 12:35 pm to tigerpimpbot
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Foster said he was just out to rob White's home, but things got out of hand when she grabbed a knife and chased him around a living room chair. He picked up a fireplace log and hit White hard enough to break her jaw. Then he sexually molested her with a salad-dressing bottle and strangled her to death.
frick our legal system and frick the people who defend these pieces of shite. Trying to get people off on backdoor loop holes.
Posted on 10/31/15 at 12:37 pm to Mizzoufan26
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frick our legal system and frick the people who defend these pieces of shite. Trying to get people off on backdoor loop holes.
Other than his attorney, I don't know of anyone defending him. I think he deserves everything he gets. Even in the most heinous crimes, the legal system must be
This post was edited on 10/31/15 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 10/31/15 at 12:41 pm to LSUTANGERINE
That balance/scales shite is a joke. Its anything but balanced because many other factors always have to weigh in.
Posted on 10/31/15 at 12:46 pm to SEClint
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That balance/scales shite is a joke. Its anything but balanced because many other factors always have to weigh in.
Trials must be as fair as possible. We just can't pick and choose which trials are to be more or less balnced
Posted on 10/31/15 at 12:51 pm to LSUTANGERINE
They should have him hanged and leave him up.
Posted on 10/31/15 at 12:51 pm to LSUTANGERINE
In some cases, there should be no trial
In cases where a confession is given, they should only have a hearing to determine if the confession is admissible. After that it's guilt and sentencing.
In cases where a confession is given, they should only have a hearing to determine if the confession is admissible. After that it's guilt and sentencing.
This post was edited on 10/31/15 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 10/31/15 at 12:54 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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Not sure it;'s illegal for the DA to do what he did or say what he said.
It's not. 9-0 decision on that point.
Don't know if it's enough to reverse or whatever they're asking for, but you cannot do what that prosecutor did.
Posted on 10/31/15 at 12:57 pm to LSUTANGERINE
Nothing confirms that your position doesn't hold any merit more than the use of the race card. Nothing.
I honestly don't blame minorities for using it, it's been effective. I blame weak minded people for accepting it as rational. It is 2015 after all...
I honestly don't blame minorities for using it, it's been effective. I blame weak minded people for accepting it as rational. It is 2015 after all...
Posted on 10/31/15 at 1:08 pm to LSUTANGERINE
Fair is tricky
Posted on 10/31/15 at 1:10 pm to LSUTANGERINE
Oh, hey, you seem to have forgotten this part in your cherry picked excerpts:
Awwwwwww poor poor misunderstood child. Although decidedly not a dindu nuffin, as even his lawyers completely abandoned any attempt to defend using reasonable doubt.
Just attempts to garner sympathy by means of saying such fricked up individuals are somehow excused from the consequences of their actions.
I would have agreed if it reeked of a case where it's possible the DA was overlooking the facts to throw a man in jail due to race, but the defense isn't ever ONCE arguing that he didn't do it, or even that police overstepped their bounds in their investigation or coercing an illegitimate confession.
What the guy did isn't in question by anyone.
The entire defense and appeals is based on trying to garner bullshite sympathy for their client.
And all this story is based off of documents that (gasp) the DA didn't want people who have given reason time and again to be a high risk of buying into that bullshite and disregarding the facts of the case for the sake of racial sympathy.
To put it bluntly, the DA is being accused of being a racist because other people are racist and he factored that in his juror preferences.
And here you are, hilariously condemning in a manner that validates the entire strategic viewpoint when your OP suggests that the most important facts in this case are the ones in line with your "whites oppressing blacks" mantra.
By all means, debate the issue of how death penalties don't seem to discourage violent crimes.
But all the comment was is non-PC. And here is your arse wondering if speaking that notion is a fricking CRIME?!
frick your race baiting arse.
Almost makes you miss Afreaux.
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White had the misfortune to use her bathroom in the middle of the night. Only when she returned to her bedroom and turned on the lamp beside her bed did she notice Foster in her living room, according to Foster's confession to police.
Foster said he was just out to rob White's home, but things got out of hand when she grabbed a knife and chased him around a living room chair. He picked up a fireplace log and hit White hard enough to break her jaw. Then he sexually molested her with a salad-dressing bottle and strangled her to death.
Foster's trial lawyers did not so much contest his guilt as try to explain it as a product of a troubled childhood, drug abuse and mental illness. They also raised their objections about the exclusion of African-Americans from the jury. On that point, the judge accepted Lanier's explanations that factors other than race drove his decisions. The jury convicted Foster and sentenced him to death.
Awwwwwww poor poor misunderstood child. Although decidedly not a dindu nuffin, as even his lawyers completely abandoned any attempt to defend using reasonable doubt.
Just attempts to garner sympathy by means of saying such fricked up individuals are somehow excused from the consequences of their actions.
I would have agreed if it reeked of a case where it's possible the DA was overlooking the facts to throw a man in jail due to race, but the defense isn't ever ONCE arguing that he didn't do it, or even that police overstepped their bounds in their investigation or coercing an illegitimate confession.
What the guy did isn't in question by anyone.
The entire defense and appeals is based on trying to garner bullshite sympathy for their client.
And all this story is based off of documents that (gasp) the DA didn't want people who have given reason time and again to be a high risk of buying into that bullshite and disregarding the facts of the case for the sake of racial sympathy.
To put it bluntly, the DA is being accused of being a racist because other people are racist and he factored that in his juror preferences.
And here you are, hilariously condemning in a manner that validates the entire strategic viewpoint when your OP suggests that the most important facts in this case are the ones in line with your "whites oppressing blacks" mantra.
By all means, debate the issue of how death penalties don't seem to discourage violent crimes.
But all the comment was is non-PC. And here is your arse wondering if speaking that notion is a fricking CRIME?!
frick your race baiting arse.
Almost makes you miss Afreaux.
This post was edited on 10/31/15 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 10/31/15 at 1:16 pm to Volvagia
OP pretty much sucks.
Poor frick is obsessed.
Poor frick is obsessed.
Posted on 10/31/15 at 1:19 pm to LSUTANGERINE
If you took half the time you spend here crying about race and actually used it to help the unfortunate you may actually do some good.
Posted on 10/31/15 at 1:20 pm to Volvagia
1. You upset. And mad.
2. It's not about guilt or innocence. It's about the courts also following the law. As I stated, even in the most heinous crimes, the legal system must follow the law. Follow the law in the courts, then sentence him to death. No problems. A beginning law student knows this.
2. It's not about guilt or innocence. It's about the courts also following the law. As I stated, even in the most heinous crimes, the legal system must follow the law. Follow the law in the courts, then sentence him to death. No problems. A beginning law student knows this.
This post was edited on 10/31/15 at 1:21 pm
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