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re: Suppose you discovered there is no afterlife
Posted on 9/12/25 at 5:20 pm to northshorebamaman
Posted on 9/12/25 at 5:20 pm to northshorebamaman
quote:Not only did it not work, it worked the exact opposite, for 30 years.
Of course no one will be able to predict if that would happen for you specifically, but it's certainly possible for someone to follow that path.
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But if it's working for you I'd encourage you to stick with your current Christian value framework.
Thanks brother
Posted on 9/12/25 at 5:23 pm to No Colors
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Why would you do that? You'd be missing the metaphor
I don't mean I still wouldn't be a good person. I'd continue to not cause people harm, be the best dad and husband I could be. Life of pain could have been said differently. I just feel much better now that I'm a Christian and have a hard time explaining it on here.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 5:27 pm to fightin tigers
quote:Glad I didn’t know you back then.
When I discovered that it made me a better person.
Because you vote Libertarian, do Cross-Fit, are Vegan and are saving the planet, you are better than all of us.
Thanks for posting here, we REALLY need your example.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 5:29 pm to mudshuvl05
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. I am a former athiest, I had no idea that personal accountability was achievable if I would've just kept on being an athiest.
If you have no personal accountability religion won't save you. If you need religion to teach you personal accountability then you should certainly do that.
I dont see any faults in how your arrive here. I just said my personal path. Everyone has and needs their own.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 5:30 pm to Jcorye1
I would live about the same as now too. Things don’t change, you still have to pay bills, eat sleep etc
Posted on 9/12/25 at 5:30 pm to prplhze2000
Golden rule. Treat others how you wish to be treated. Wouldn't change a thing for me.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 5:30 pm to soccerfüt
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Glad I didn’t know you back then.
Not sure you know me now.
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Because you vote Libertarian, do Cross-Fit, are Vegan and are saving the planet, you are better than all of us.
Not sure I have ever been accused of any of those things. Especially on this board.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 5:33 pm to RandySavage
quote:Yes, and the more they do, the more we feel compelled to pull away from those things or avoid them completely.
Humans bastardize basically everything they touch.
I do some of those things you listed. And don’t do some of the others.
quote:Ok but what if it was like 80% counterfeit and 20% real money?
C.S. Lewis said something along the lines of "the existence of counterfeit money doesn't mean that the real stuff doesn't exist".
Then I’d be wondering what the hell is the real money here?
Posted on 9/12/25 at 5:33 pm to mudshuvl05
quote:Firstly, I'm happy to hear that you've since found something that brings peace and stability to your life.
Not only did it not work, it worked the exact opposite, for 30 years.
I do think it's important to remember that atheism isn't a moral/ethical code onto itself, and nihilism and narcissism aren't an inevitable result, even if [not saying it was] that was your experience and outlook during your time as an atheist.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 5:37 pm to dalefla
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Because deep down they know morality is loosely connected to religion and if God isn't real then fricking children must be okay.
Really terrifying to hear what goes on in some of ya'lls heads
Posted on 9/12/25 at 5:39 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Ok but what if it was like 80% counterfeit and 20% real money?
Then I’d be wondering what the hell is the real money here?
Well the Bible says the the path is narrow and to work out your salvation with fear and trembling so it would be up to you to do the work to figure that out for yourself.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 5:45 pm to fightin tigers
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When I discovered that it made me a better person.
Stopped making me believe I could just ask for forgiveness and be granted it by some magical ghost in the sky.
Makes you learn personal accountability.
It allows you to take no personal responsibility as there is no need for integrity. None of it matters, right?
You don't get forgiveness by asking for it. It's a gift. You don't earn or do anything to get it. It's just there because of someone else's love. That's called grace. You just have to accept it.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 5:45 pm to prplhze2000
when someone decides that there is not afterlife,it is very likely that his moral boundaries disappear, because at that point nothing matters but his own enjoyment and will.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 5:45 pm to Huck Finn
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I've had girls make passes before that my wife wouldn't have known about, but because of my faith I had made the decision years prior that I wouldn't go down that road.
Hope that answers the question
The first place I go in this situation is my wife/spouse/partner.
If Jesus is why you aren't engaging then you just lack respect for the person you are with. You need Jesus to tell you to respect someone you should already respect.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 5:47 pm to RandySavage
quote:Noooope. I matched energy with energy.
fwiw, those are the kinds of comments/attitudes that give Christianity a bad name.
I smell what my former brother in Christ is stepping in, and I would speak to a cradle atheist in a completely different manner, but this is someone who was at one time in the church, and if you're not a Christian/former Christian, then you can't speak on it.
I had the exact opposite experience: I didn't fall from a belief of the afterlife to no belief, but from a non-belief to a belief of it. Vacation Bible school was a daycare relief in the summer. There was no God - not that my young little boy self could see - because my childhood was horrific and tragic, but now, after Christ, I'm thankful for my trauma because I had it better than many.
To say that your athiesm makes you, and I quote, "a good person," and gave you, and I quote, "personal accountability," is ridiculous: Jesus Christ was not holding you back from being your better self, YOU WERE. No religion is going to make you a better version of yourself and give you personal accountability. Not one.
Jesus Christ is not an ATM, So let's not blame our shortcomings on Him. None of you all do it to Muhammad or Buddha out of respect, so don't do it to my God.
This post was edited on 9/12/25 at 5:49 pm
Posted on 9/12/25 at 5:47 pm to Barbellthor
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allows you to take no personal responsibility as there is no need for integrity
Integrity is all I have. Judgement in today and now, not the person I repent to on my death bed.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 5:48 pm to Barbellthor
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You don't get forgiveness by asking for it. It's a gift. You don't earn or do anything to get it. It's just there because of someone else's love. That's called grace. You just have to accept it.
A lot of Christians think this, I disagree.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 5:50 pm to mudshuvl05
Fwiw, I'm not an atheist. I believe we came from something that created us. Whether it is a spak in pocket lint or some devine creator I have no idea.
Nothing I have seen in my life has ever been unexplainable nor caused me believe some greater being is pulling the strings. Without a doubt no one is grading me on hownI perform over 65 years or how an infant performs over 3 minutes before death.
Nothing I have seen in my life has ever been unexplainable nor caused me believe some greater being is pulling the strings. Without a doubt no one is grading me on hownI perform over 65 years or how an infant performs over 3 minutes before death.
This post was edited on 9/12/25 at 5:52 pm
Posted on 9/12/25 at 5:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
You’re a lawyer. They have absolutely zero morality
Posted on 9/12/25 at 5:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
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t wouldn't at all because my morality isn't based on anything requiring an after life
Good thing, bc you sure seem like a piece of shite.
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