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re: Students are increasingly refusing to go to school. It’s becoming a mental health crisis.

Posted on 5/18/23 at 7:59 am to
Posted by Norbert
Member since Oct 2018
3189 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 7:59 am to
New victimhood class?

“I’m school avoidant. It’s a disease.”
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
19715 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 8:00 am to
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Not sure is many have noticed but America has been in a mental health crisis for a few years.


Not everything is a crisis, and this is one of them.
Posted by Benne Wafer
Member since Jan 2015
403 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 8:03 am to
I sometimes wonder why I send my middle schooler. Seems as if most of the teachers "teach" by pointing to the lesson in their online portal and tell them to complete the work. They watch videos or go through powerpoint slides. No experiments or notes or tactile tools like books or handouts. Just hop on Launchpad and do your work for today. Pre-pandemic it feels as if the portal was a supplement to actual classroom teaching, now it has replaced it as the main tool.

Kids can do the same thing at home without teachers and faster without having to deal with bullies or other kids. I can see why kids are pushing back.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261684 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 8:04 am to
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They don't sit at a desk for 8 hours a day.


5-6, which is too much. For some kids 1-2 is too much.

Schools should be half day, at most. Could easily be done from home.

But parents want their subsidized day care.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37584 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 8:11 am to
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I understand Spring of 2020 was lost, but the following year was a joke.


The ONLY nation that kept schools closed/remote in late 2020 early 2021 was America. All because of teachers unions.
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
23198 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 8:11 am to
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Gen Xers taking the slacker thing a bit too far


Hard to blame them. The people in charge showed those kids how important school was in 2020. They listened.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15262 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 8:12 am to
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My wife is a teacher and they have little shits at her school with “Oppositional defiant disorder” and they have to give them “accommodations” because of it. So basically the kid is an a-hole who the parents let get away with it then make it known to the school that the little a-hole has to get special treatment




That's a huge part of the problem. Seems everybody's got a label now to validate their abusive/obstructive behavior.

I'm old school---no pun intended----and idiots like that were initially given a detention and had to stay after school to do "punish work". After that, it was usually a trip to the Principal's Office followed by a call to the parents if the behavior continued. That usually did the trick since the parents had no problem peppering an arse for misbehaving when I was a kid.

IF it still continued, that generally got you suspended for a few days to think about your actions and get another hiding/grounding/or both by the parents.

Coddling these little frickers like they are special is some of the most stupid shite that has become the norm over the years. And people wonder why we now have young adults in the mid to late 20's who can't function in society......It's how they were raised.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
45067 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 8:14 am to
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Not sure is many have noticed but America has been in a mental health crisis for a few years.


Kids wanting to stay home from school is not a mental health issue. It's called being a kid.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
54009 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 8:18 am to
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big part of this problem is the teachers and schools are enabling the behavior too. I got a text from my kids teacher a few weeks ago that my some was basically playing sick, school nurse sent him back to class. He also got probably 10-15 notes this year that he was getting up and not doing his work.

My point is that the schools are now involving parents in enforcing their rules in a way that hadn’t been done in the past


Maybe I’m missing your point, but schools have always involved parents in enforcing their rules. That’s become even more necessary as disciplining the student at school has almost been completely taken away from school personnel. You think that you’re fatigued in trying to correct your own child’s behavior? Grab some of trying to correct the behavior of 125 kids with very few tools in your arsenal to do so.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
54009 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 8:20 am to
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New victimhood class?

“I’m school avoidant. It’s a disease.”


Norm Macdonald on alcoholism: it’s true, you have a disease, but I think you got the best one.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
42037 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 8:21 am to
The past 4 years have been a literal shite Show and nobody has held accountable for the Covid BS
Posted by Harry Morgan
Member since Sep 2019
9193 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 8:23 am to
Pussies.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
54009 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 8:30 am to
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I sometimes wonder why I send my middle schooler. Seems as if most of the teachers "teach" by pointing to the lesson in their online portal and tell them to complete the work. They watch videos or go through powerpoint slides. No experiments or notes or tactile tools like books or handouts. Just hop on Launchpad and do your work for today. Pre-pandemic it feels as if the portal was a supplement to actual classroom teaching, now it has replaced it as the main tool.


This is mostly true. COVID shutdowns created a detachment that hasn’t been overcome. It is much more difficult to engage students in a lesson since COVID, and from discussions I’ve had with others, this seems to be the case all over the country in public schools. I got so frustrated with the online curriculum and its lack of effectiveness that I ditched the chromebooks at the end of the first semester and went back to a class set of textbooks that I have. Engagement and participation from students has increased significantly since I did so.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261684 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 8:31 am to
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Kids wanting to stay home from school is not a mental health issue. It's called being a kid.



The only thing thats changed is society gives in to the whims of children instead of guiding them to make better choices.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 8:35 am to
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School avoidant behavior, also called school refusal, is when a school-age child refuses to attend school or has difficulty being in school for the entire day.

WTF is this nonsense? Why do supposedly educated people feel the need to make up new words and phrases for shite that’s existed forever. It’s called truancy.
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There's no book on this, it's not spoken about,"
Yes there is. I doubt most of éducation administrators can actually read though.

Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
54009 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 8:35 am to
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The only thing thats changed is society gives in to the whims of children instead of guiding them to make better choices.


Bingo
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
12154 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 8:43 am to
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For some kids 1-2 is too much.


Lol. Those kids lack any sort of discipline
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261684 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 8:44 am to
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Lol. Those kids lack any sort of discipline



No, they're just not meant to be scholars. They need action, motion.
Posted by Rick9Plus
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2020
1738 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 8:52 am to
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No, they're just not meant to be scholars. They need action, motion.


I agree. The whole thing of making *all* kids go through 13 years of college prep classes is creating a lot of people only qualified to work fast food. Everyone isn’t suited for college and that should be ok.
Posted by Joe_Dirte
Southwest LA
Member since Feb 2019
650 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 8:55 am to
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Was fixed with a belt in my day.



exactly. this is all on the parents. they don't want to inconvenience the kids. if you don't want to beat the little sh!t, they could start by taking the phone away, then the video games. if that doesn't work, cut the power to the house when you leave for work. you can make it so damn uncomfortable for the kid that they'll beg to go to school. but you have to do something. you can't just ask them to go, and when they refuse assume it's some sort of mental condition.
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