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re: Street preacher threatened with jail time after citing Bible verses against LGBTQ

Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:47 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:47 am to
SHel, how was the drag show? Your kids love it?
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
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Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:47 am to
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Specifically targeting individuals for harassment is not free speech.


Unless an individual is famous.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112626 posts
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:48 am to
Weak
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
15875 posts
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:49 am to
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Ok, now do telling someone they're worthy of death...you are going to pretend that's not hating on them?


Personally as I've come to know God I understand that as a human (and child of God) I can condemn no one to death, though death will come to us all according to God's plan. So, as I see we are all worthy of earthly death because of our sin but spiritual death does not have to be a certainty. Jesus because the sacrifice for all of us to have life in the Fathers grace. It's not for me or anyone else other that Jesus Himself to judge whether or not someone is deserving of spiritual life or death.

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Or you can mind your business and deal with the sins you're committing and don't involve yourself with shite that has nothing to do with you.


But it has to do with all of us. Jesus commanded that his people should be the light of the earth and spread the message of God's kingdom through the lands. To gather as many of God's children as are willing to come to the Father. As Christians it is our business to carry the work of God to everyone. You have the right to reject the Word and accept you fate if you so choose, but Christians should never disobey God's command just because some will not receive it.

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As opposed to that pastor or people who aren't living in sin?


We are all marked by sin.

The people who are lost are the ones that do not strive to reject sin and instead believe they there are no consequences for wilfully living in sin and do not care even if they do accept that there are consequences to come.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297151 posts
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:49 am to
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Unless an individual is famous.



Im not sure I have seen anyone serve jail time for reading bible verses though.

Seems very fascist.
Posted by SoonerK
Member since Nov 2021
1013 posts
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:50 am to
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Specifically targeting individuals for harassment is not free speech.


Unless an individual is famous.


Famous people get restraining orders against harassers all the time. Can you point to anyone famous getting turned down for a restraining order that was a valid request?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112626 posts
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:51 am to
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Personally as I've come to know God I understand that as a human (and child of God) I can condemn no one to death,
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It's not for me or anyone else other that Jesus Himself to judge whether or not someone is deserving of spiritual life or death.
Kinda sounds like you're saying that saying someone should be drowned to death indeed is hating on them.


Posted by Jcorye1
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:51 am to
This guy is obviously toeing a line, and specifically targeting multiple individuals like apparently he has done is some morally bankrupt stuff. I'm not sure where the legal line of harassment is, but it very well could cross it.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:53 am to
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What, you don't like people saying you must take your kids to drag shows if they don't think it's ok for others to wish death on them?



WOW, this thing really has taken legs and is walking around all by itself now. The man quotes Christ and Paul out of the Bible and is now WISHING death upon people instead of just quoting scripture so that one can see their own sin.

How do you know that this man wishes their physical or even spiritual death? And let me say this. If this man does, then he is clearly not a Christian, because that runs absolutely counter to what it means to follow Christ, as none of us are righteous, and all have fallen short of the glory of God. WE ALL deserve spiritual death for our sins, including yours truly, but that’s where the good news of salvation comes into play, and I will be the first to say that if he left that out, and did anything other than that, then he pushed God off of His thrown so to speak and pronounced his own judgement, not the judgement of God. I don’t know, because I have not actually seen the entirety of what he was getting at, and seeing that it has since been removed, I don’t see how you can testify to what was actually said either.

There is a sovereignty here that is not being discussed or understood here, and it needs to be clarified. There is man’s law, and then there is God’s law which we are all subject to, even those who create man’s laws themselves. There is a physical death, and then there is a spiritual death. This is spoken of and clarified throughout all of scripture. Nobody is under the authority of a theocratic Old Testament rule anymore. As a Christian, we are under a new covenant with God, foretold to come in the Old Testament where there is actual hope for mankind who believes upon and looks to our savior for our salvation.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297151 posts
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:54 am to
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and then there is a spiritual death.


The women here don't understand. They took their precious junior to a drag contest and felt shamed. Someone must pay.
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
11566 posts
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:54 am to
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A godly man must love everyone




You're correct, but a preacher is supposed to tell the truth. He can still love them while calling out the sin.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
30523 posts
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:54 am to
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That speech is pointed at a specific couple and is bordering on threats. Who knows what fanatic might take him literally. That's the couple's fear.


So he did the same thing as some democratic senators did on camera?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297151 posts
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:55 am to
SHel is mad that he took his kids to a clown contest and someone noticed.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
30523 posts
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:56 am to
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Acceptance of any lifestyle choice isnt love. Godly love also includes the justice of Christ and rejection of all sin. He aint comin back the second time as a servant but as a warrior and as God Almighty who He is


Will he hit up a Chipotle?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297151 posts
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:57 am to
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Will he hit up a Chipotle?


Probably. He just left Chicago, headed towards New Orleans.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112626 posts
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:58 am to
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WOW, this thing really has taken legs and is walking around all by itself now. The man quotes Christ and Paul out of the Bible and is now WISHING death upon people instead of just quoting scripture so that one can see their own sin.

He said they should be drowned to death and made other posts about their deaths, how dare I think he wished death upon them.

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How do you know that this man wishes their physical or even spiritual death?
He posted it
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112626 posts
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:59 am to
Weak
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78155 posts
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:59 am to
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Im not sure I have seen anyone serve jail time for reading bible verses though
Come on. You know what was being implied.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
136219 posts
Posted on 5/10/23 at 10:00 am to
It's a free speech issue. You obviously aren't for free speech if you think this way.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78155 posts
Posted on 5/10/23 at 10:00 am to
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So he did the same thing as some democratic senators did on camera?
Possibly. They should suffer legally too.
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